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re: EO coming today requiring all Federal employees to get the "vaccine"
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:14 am to kennypowers
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:14 am to kennypowers
quote:
Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.
The delta surge isn’t as high in my area as it is in Louisiana. We have much higher vaccination rates. Like everywhere else, the overwhelming majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated.
On the other hand, we also didn’t have bus loads of untested and often infected illegal immigrants from our border dropped off at our transit centers during the spring like Louisiana, Texas, Florida, and New Mexico had to deal with.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:15 am to stout
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"
Has become
"Three jabs to feed your family"
frick every one of you that pushes this shite.
Has become
"Three jabs to feed your family"
frick every one of you that pushes this shite.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:15 am to kennypowers
quote:
I'll pencil you in for an Ivan Draggo - "If they die, they die"
It really is no concern of yours if people die because they didn't get the shot. Mind your own fricking business.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:16 am to kennypowers
quote:
Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.
If more of you would have worn a mask we wouldn't need this.
If more of you would have socially distanced we wouldn't need this.
If more of you would have taken this seriously we wouldn't need this.
The reality is that you are a fricking moron.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:17 am to MrJimBeam
quote:
What a joke
Yeah but they providing me a welfare generator so..it all balances out.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:19 am to stout
quote:
Again, the comparison is not the same. I can take PPE off after my shift. I can't remove the vaccine after it is injected. The fact that you are ignoring this shows the one that is being obtuse
It is the same. A condition of employment no matter how you look at it. No matter the mortality rate. It's all a choice. A mandated choice. You're so hung up on the word vaccine you can't see past it. Again, it's the Goddamn Man in both scenarios. Cant you see that? We're literally on the same side of the argument, but you can't get past this vaccine shite.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:20 am to kennypowers
quote:
Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this
I think you are trolling because anyone with a brain knows that the vaccines were never going to “stop the spread” at this point.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:21 am to TDTOM
Vaccinate or lose your job.
"But I am 40, healthy, in great shape..."
"Doesn't matter"
"You can spread it too, you know"
"Doesn't matter"
"What if there are long-term side effects?"
"Doesn't matter"
"But it does"
"Show me your papers"
"Um, no"
"But I am 40, healthy, in great shape..."
"Doesn't matter"
"You can spread it too, you know"
"Doesn't matter"
"What if there are long-term side effects?"
"Doesn't matter"
"But it does"
"Show me your papers"
"Um, no"
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:21 am to kennypowers
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Ok, so what's the answer to ending this scourge?
What I said shouldn't be taken as me proclaiming I have all the answers. I'm merely stating what I believe isn't helpful. Just as dumb and self-righteous as "Fat Shaming" IMHO. Who goes around focusing on shite like that? It's lame and doesn't solve anything. It's a waste of time- and we're all on The Big Countdown. Use your time wisely.
What we as individuals CAN do is live our lives, and still make small changes to lessen the chances of catching and spreading this. We all should know the basics by now: Wash hands, use sanitizer, limit your time in crowded spaces, and if you feel sick- stay home and away from others.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:22 am to Sao
quote:You are forgetting that conditions of employment typically have a purpose that is specific to the job requirements. Having all government employees get a shot... even if they work from home... isn't exactly the same as someone who is required to wear a hardhat in a plant.
A condition of employment no matter how you look at it.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:23 am to Earnest_P
quote:
I assumed you were not an idiot
Found the problem.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:24 am to ell_13
There are more full time employees is this nation under OSHA and corporate mandated PPE than there are federal FTE. It's not even close. Agree?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:24 am to Sao
quote:What do the totals have to do with anything? Mandated PPE is site specific. People don't wear their hardhats at the office even though they may be OSHA employees.
There are more full time employees is this nation under OSHA and corporate mandated PPE than there are federal FTE. It's not even close. Agree?
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:26 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:25 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"
Has become
"Three jabs to feed your family"
frick every one of you that pushes this shite.
Someone gets it.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:25 am to stout
And it will have NO effect on the spread and sickness levels!
Our president* is STUPID!
Our president* is STUPID!
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:27 am to ell_13
quote:
What do the totals have to do with anything?
Glad you asked.
Because certain mandates under the guise of PERSONAL safety are no different than the bullshite mandates under the guise of PUBLIC safety. Written by the same beaurocracy. Agree?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:27 am to GumboPot
quote:
COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved. It's not available on the market.
BioNTech-Pfizer is still under EUA. It is available and this is the Pfizer vaccine that people think is fully FDA approved.
This has been explained to you multiple times they are the exact some product, don't listen to Dr. Malone he is bitter and intentionally distributing incorrect information.
Comirnaty is just the trade name for the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine. Until a vaccine gets its biologics license it can't be advertised and doesn't have a need for a trade name and the packaging and inserts still haven't been approved. The minute their BL was approved they Pizer could start packaging the exact same vaccine and place the Comirnaty name on the label and bottle. The "it isn't available argument" by Malone was good for about a day even though it was strictly pedantic and he knew he was lying at the time. This is what the current bottle look like:
quote:
There is a lot of confusion around this issue and it was purposely rolled out this way so it can be said the vaccine is fully approved and still maintain legal immunity from side effects.
The confusion is in large part due to Malone's lying and twisting the truth. The confusion is manufactured by people that don't understand the process which is indeed unusual because most vaccines are never distributed under EUA.
Malone also has confused you about liability. The VICP (around since the 80's) confers the same liability shield to the vaccine manufacturers they were given under EUA with the CICP. The liability protection for Comirnaty is exactly the same as for vaccines distributed by EUA the injury claims are just administered under the VICP vs the CICP.
Don't get suckered by a charlatan. Note it could be easy for a doctor to be confused by legal issues but Malone claims to have been involved with multiple vaccine BLAs if this is indeed the case he understands what he is saying regarding liability is a lie. Think about that.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:28 am to stout
quote:
Just want to point out that if Republicans were pushing this it would be called racist.
Maybe unions will protect their employees for a change and stand up to this.
Imagine the Twitter bot tone difference.
If Republicans, it would be "dictator", "Fascist", "Racist".
Now, it will be labeled as "Presidential", "Strong", "Leader"
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:31 am to Sao
quote:That has nothing to do with the totals. And people aren't mandated to wear hardhats wherever they go just because they're osha certified. PPE mandates are required as part of a job description because part of that job is to work where things can fall and the company is avoiding liability. A vaccine mandate pushed on people who don't require a vaccine for any real purpose isn't the same thing. It has nothing to do with their employment.
Because certain mandates under the guise of PERSONAL safety are no different than the bullshite mandates under the guise of PUBLIC safety. Written by the same beaurocracy. Agree?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:31 am to Obtuse1
quote:
Obtuse1
Do you work in the medical field?
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