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re: Will anything change with entergy?

Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16206 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:49 am to
I completely understand that, but there’s an obvious issue with the promises they made to leadership and they way things are going.

I’m aware we were going to be without power.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:50 am to
They’ll be a $30-$50 “surcharge” added onto the next couple monthly billing cycles.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34246 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:56 am to
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Yes. Prices going up.

Being Louisiana I know it will never happen, but this should be a clarion call for energy deregulation in Louisiana. Giving New Orleanians a choice of say Cleco or REA would crush NOPSI/ENTERGY. But they're protected by Crooks in BR/City Hall, so it's never going to happen.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4326 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:59 am to
I think everyone everyone accepts being out of power for a few days after major storms. And I think entergy crews do a great job getting power back on after storms.

But we’re paying for investment in local generation capacity to provide redundancy with power brought in by those failed transmission lines. Those plants aren’t on right now. Fair to ask why entergy is investing more for capacity to New Orleans because if we can’t use it now than when?
Posted by Rollwave034
Member since Feb 2013
521 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 12:15 pm to
My biggest problem with them isn’t being out of power, its having the app and website be inaccurate. For the ice storm and this, my house saya power is on when it definitely is not
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1288 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:23 pm to
In their defense, how do you operate a utility in a zero sum game of New Orleans where the regulators are politicians that would never allow any kind of rate structure that would come remotely close to covering expenses?
In addition, you can't allow disconnect for non payment and can't raise capital to make improvements.....
I believe they have to self insure for all distribution damages as well which is unsustainable for such a small broke entity...
I suspect they'll file bankruptcy soon (again)...
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3912 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:45 pm to
So a couple things bother me about power in Louisiana. It’s known that we get hurricanes and tropical storms frequently. I know it costs significantly more money to put the lines in the ground but if we have to continuously pay some storm offset fee why the hell can’t they at least start putting some of the most important lines in the ground on a priority basis throughout the years?

Second, power is a monopoly. Monopolies exist because it is supposed to be cheaper and more efficient. Otherwise, competition would make it cheaper and more efficient. I’m scared to say it but this may be the one area where government could be more effective and efficient. You may think I’m crazy but the Public Service Commission guarantees these electrical companies a certain amount of profits. With government running it, there are no profits. Any and all excess profits after maintains the system would go towards improving the system (lines in the damn ground).

Finally, I know it takes time after a storm to assess the damage. I personally am satisfied because I have power and it was restored quickly. Half of my family is in my boat and the other half isn’t. There are preventive measures and basic plans you can make to get the ball rolling. Why gas stations are not higher on the priority list is beyond me. It adds to the anxiety and stress when people have to wait hours for gas because so few stations are open and have gas.

Elect me PSC in 20202z
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Our house was/is in that little Demco enclave of SE EBR. Makes you feel special



I’m in that little enclave as well. Had power back on yesterday at like 5:00. Feeling special for sure
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12885 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:23 pm to
They keep telling us power is on, showing another 1600 folks on line. No power still. Executing restore almost as well as Biden in Afghanistan.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12885 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:30 pm to
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There are preventive measures and basic plans you can make to get the ball rolling.


No shite, same leg, same damn issues since the fricking 80s. Bandaid after fricking bandaid. Could have run it underground and saved money at this point. S
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9596 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:01 pm to
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You might get a new monopoly, but you're not going to get options.

To be fair, there’s not really any getting around this when it comes to the grid itself. You can “de-regulate” power generation, but somebody still has to operate/maintain the grid. All the de-regulation in the world won’t help if the lines are down.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
3912 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:16 pm to
It’s hard for lines to go down when they are in the ground. I know they all can’t be in the ground but they sure could reduce the impact when they have fewer lines above ground to fix.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1596 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:18 pm to
Hey, but they have their Diversity Equity Inclusion plan.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4326 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:18 pm to
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In their defense, how do you operate a utility in a zero sum game of New Orleans


I don’t think it’s any more of a zero sum game than elsewhere. The utility shareholders are basically guaranteed to get a return on their equity and investments.

I do want to here why the New Orleans east plant wasn’t online ahead of this storm. This situation really does seem like the exact reason it was built (other than hedging against the cost of purchasing power from other generators)
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1596 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:20 pm to
Demco outage map is offline.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39755 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:23 pm to
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I know it costs significantly more money to put the lines in the ground but if we have to continuously pay some storm offset fee why the hell can’t they at least start putting some of the most important lines in the ground

If you’re talking about major transmission lines operating at hundreds of thousands volts then that’s a big NO. That would be prohibitively expensive. That’s not even a possibility.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:25 pm to
So, Baws, quit with the Solar = Devil mindset and get the regulatory agencies (Public Service Commission) to approve Net Metering to make solar a possibility. The storage ability of solar is next to none but displacing the generation stress + generators + battery storage would alleviate some of the generation stress on a very outdated grid.

Also, yea.. all the rates are fitna go up.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7060 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:29 pm to
There's a reason why all the entergy companies are states, including the rest of LA, but yet there is this entergy new orleans that is separated from the rest of entergy Louisiana. That tells you everything you need to know about how companies feel about operating in nola, probably has to do with separating Nola's crazy city hall demands from the rest of entergy.

Entergy : Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi........New orleans?
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30932 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:33 pm to
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Entergy gets a lot of criticism. But they’re really not that bad.


Its the call center thats bad. Those people are stupid.

If you can get the engineers phone numbers and bypass the 800 number its a much better interaction.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12663 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 8:46 pm to
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I know it costs significantly more money to put the lines in the ground

It’s about $30M per mile in an urban environment. Put a premium on that for the river crossing vault to vault.
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