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re: Chalk up a 'W' for prior infection immunity: Israeli study shows it 6X-13X more effective
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:19 am to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:19 am to BottomlandBrew
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Conclusion: We don't know shite about frick.
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:19 am to BiggerBear
quote:Director of Genetics Institute in London weighs in on this preprint
We'll have to wait for peer review to see if this goes the way of the fraudulent ivermectin "study."
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Prof Francois Balloux @BallouxFrancois 13h
This preprint is a bit of a bombshell.
The results point to natural infection affording longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the SARSCoV2 Delta variant than vaccine-induced immunity.
The results also point to one dose of BioNTech/Pfizer mRNA vaccine administrated post-infection providing marginally higher protection than immunity due to prior infection alone.
The study has a huge sample size and is the largest of its type to date. The analyses look competent to me. There are likely subtle biases in the data, but given the clearcut results, the patterns are in all likelihood genuine.
There have been previous results pointing in that direction. Of all Covid19 cases in July 2021, 99% had never been infected and 78% never vaccinated, and this despite far many more people having been vaccinated than infected by SARSCoV2 in the UK.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:20 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
The problem with that is that you have to get covid to have it
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:21 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Indeed.
Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection
That is incorrect
Tier God: Prior infected and exposed again with zero symptoms. These are your gods.
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:35 am to Cosmo
quote:Its not an argument to get COVID.
The problem with that is that you have to get covid to have it
Its an argument to not fire someone with prior immunity.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:39 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection
Tier 5: Unvaccinated and dead
FIFY
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:45 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Does it not sadden you to think there are so many people (including tons on Tigerdroppings) who really, really HOPE this isn't true?
There are people ACTIVELY rooting against any form of natural immunity.
There are people ACTIVELY rooting against any form of natural immunity.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:57 am to AMS
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I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity. its that vax > unvaxxed.
bullshite. There were the usual roundup of the statists and Chinese Flu True Believers who were trumpeting exactly that.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:06 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I recall people who thought that Tommy Johns surgery improves ones UCL structural design, better than natural design. Then I read Dr. Andrews book who states nothing is going to be better than how God originally made it.
Not sure why we would have thought man-made vax would be better than the way God made our immune systems. For those who don't believe in God, I offer you "how Darwin" evolved our immune systems (if that helps you).
P.S. I am vaxed; part of reason is because I am behaving at low risk of exposure to trigger my immune system.
Not sure why we would have thought man-made vax would be better than the way God made our immune systems. For those who don't believe in God, I offer you "how Darwin" evolved our immune systems (if that helps you).
P.S. I am vaxed; part of reason is because I am behaving at low risk of exposure to trigger my immune system.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:16 am to Scruffy
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I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity.
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People were absolutely saying that.
They're not just saying it. They're screaming it in our faces. Which is why they are requiring proof of vaccination and not proof of prior infection to enter Tiger Stadium or a New Orleans restaurant.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:17 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Chalk up a 'W' for prior infection immunity: Israeli study shows it 6X-13X more effective
Anyone with half a brain should have known that. We must have some posters here getting vaccine kickbacks because seemingly smart people here have laughed off natural immunity.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:31 am to Cosmo
You mean that pesky virus that 99% recover from? Don’t want that. Nope. Too risky I guess.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:39 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:There are multiple studies that show vaccine is better protection than prior infection
bullshite. There were the usual roundup of the statists and Chinese Flu True Believers who were trumpeting exactly that.
There are also studies showing the opposite
I think the truth is the are both correct. Prior infection as a broad range of immunity outcomes
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:02 pm to oogabooga68
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There are people ACTIVELY rooting against any form of natural immunity.
Link?
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:08 pm to mindbreaker
I don't respond to DJ's who give themselves self-aggrandizing nicknames......sorry kid, go back to Mommy's basement and write some more slam-poetry... 
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:09 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I’m class of Jan 2021 
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:14 pm to TankBoys32
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I had Covid in January lets goooo
Me too! Getting a Covid antibody test tomorrow to see how my MOJO is doing.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:16 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Chalk up a 'W' for prior infection immunity: Israeli study shows it 6X-13X more effective
This single statistic justifies vaccine hesitancy.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:18 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:20 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization
Why the plan was to trust man-made, developed in 12 months immunity over our millions of years of evolutionary ability to adapt to coronaviruses, we may never know.
Vaccinate the at-risk. Let everyone else take their chances if they want to. Common sense.
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