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re: Iceland & Israel are two of the most vaxx'ed countries in the world
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:38 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:38 am to Vacherie Saint
I'm not pretending anything.
The researchers made this clear.
And in any case, I don't really think it matters. If the symptoms are reduced and people are no longer clogging up ICUs, the crisis is essentially over.
The UK has opened up their country for example and death rates haven't dramatically increased compared with case numbers. For them, the crisis has effectively ended because 90% of adults have been vaccinated.
The US has a much lower percentage of adult vaccination which means there are vulnerable adults who haven't been vaccinated. They'll be the ones clogging up ICUs.
The researchers made this clear.
And in any case, I don't really think it matters. If the symptoms are reduced and people are no longer clogging up ICUs, the crisis is essentially over.
The UK has opened up their country for example and death rates haven't dramatically increased compared with case numbers. For them, the crisis has effectively ended because 90% of adults have been vaccinated.
The US has a much lower percentage of adult vaccination which means there are vulnerable adults who haven't been vaccinated. They'll be the ones clogging up ICUs.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 10:40 am
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:44 am to DangerousWafer
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I fail to see how the public were mis-sold anything when the researchers made this clear from the beginning.
Wow.
We were told the vaccines were 95% effective: They are probably around 60% effective at best. The CDC refuses to publish real-world effectiveness.
We were told they were permanent: They will all require boosters, at least annually if not more frequent.
We were told they would hold up against variants: They clearly dont.
We were told that you could remove your mask because you cant spread the virus if you are vaxxed: That's also false.
We were told there were only minor, mild side-effects: The vaccine has several, unforeseen severe side-effects including death. Its currently the deadliest mass distributed vaccine in history.
The narrative changed from the vaccine stopping the virus in its tracks, to the vaccine keeping you from getting super sick. You can pretend otherwise all you want, but you are letting your politics blind you. People are hesitant because literally every vaccine promise made has failed to pass. Biden, to this day, is still out there saying breakthroughs are virtually non-existent and the vaccine is a sure thing - which is a lie. Data from around the world shows this. No one wants to stop you from sticking yourself with Big Pharma's magic chemicals. We just want this mandate shite to end now.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:45 am to theunknownknight
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VERBATIM the shite line used in 2020 when the fatality rate started plummeting
That is because deaths start to rise 4-6 weeks after a surge starts and stay up for about 6 weeks after the cases start to decline. I am just an MD, so wtf do I know?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:46 am to DangerousWafer
I think I see what's happening here. Are you here to fight "disinformation". 
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:50 am to PorkSammich
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What if the vaccine is causing the spread?
1. There is zero every to suggest that.
2. If that was the case (which it’s not) then you ppl that are wanting natural immunity should rejoice because it would be increasing the spread of a less deadly virus which would increase natural immunity. Again the vaccine is not causing the spread.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:52 am to DangerousWafer
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As long as they're not clogging up ICUs, it doesn't really matter.
Then why are places going back to or discussing implementing more lockdowns?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:53 am to WeeWee
Of course the vaccine isnt causing the spread. But vaccinated people certainly are. ANYONE infected, either vaxxed or unvaxxed is spreading the virus, INSPITE of the prevailing media narrative that ONLY unvaxxed people are the problem.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:54 am to Freauxzen
quote:Based on what you bolded right above this quote, do you understand how variants work? Or do you think variants are just made up like others do and not really a real thing?
They. Moved. The. Goalposts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:55 am to Vacherie Saint
It certainly is not stopping it from spreading.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:56 am to stout
Hospitalizations per thousand is the only metric that matters
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:57 am to shel311
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:57 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:Wait, which is it, stops transmission or 95% effective?
Are you really pretending that this vaccine wasnt sold as permanent, variant robust, stops transmission, and 95% effective?
Again, variants. Are you pretending that variants don't occur in viruses?
As the virus mutates more, the vaccine is less and less effective, that's pretty much common sense. But if you're following hospital data on cases/hospitalizations/deaths, you can still see very clearly the vaccine is still working.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:58 am to DangerousWafer
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Isn't that what vaccination is about? Reducing the number of deaths
Perfect example of programming. Say something enough and people will believe it. Per the CDC:
quote:
Definition of Terms
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Until any off the shots can do this, "be exposed to it without becoming infected", then No it was never about reducing deaths. They just made that up, after they got besieged with breakthrough cases after only 5 months.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:59 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:What you're missing is that they were NOT 60% effective in December, they were 90% effective in December.
We were told the vaccines were 95% effective: They are probably around 60% effective at best
They are now probably not 90% effective in August.
quote:Not saying you're wrong, but do you have a link to this from the CDC? I'd be interested to see that and certainly you'd have a point there if they did say that.
We were told they would hold up against variants:
ETA: I see the links now, so yea, you're right on that point if Fauci said that.
quote:Oh, nevermind.
We were told there were only minor, mild side-effects: The vaccine has several, unforeseen severe side-effects including death. Its currently the deadliest mass distributed vaccine in history.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:00 am to IAmNERD
quote:Unvaccinated people are in the ICUs, not vaccinated.
Then why are places going back to or discussing implementing more lockdowns?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:02 am to theunknownknight
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The vaccine is proving to CAUSE more cases over time as the actual data bares out in countries like this.
How can a country have MORE cases than last year when there is only 5% of the population to work with?
The vaccine is causing an issue and it's being covered up
Is the vaccine preventing people from going to the hospital? 91% hospitalized for COVID in Louisiana are NOT vaccinated. Coincidence?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:05 am to stout
Unless some adverse reactions start soon in the vaccinated it won’t matter - they’re just going to triple and quadruple down on blaming it on the non-vax’d.
People are so bored of this by now that they’ll just accept the Apple News push pieces blaming us
People are so bored of this by now that they’ll just accept the Apple News push pieces blaming us
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:05 am to Vacherie Saint
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INSPITE of the prevailing media narrative that ONLY unvaxxed people are the problem.
This MF right here.
My wife is a teacher and there were 3 staff members that all are vaccinated and have covid currently. Their families now have it spreading in them as well.
I’m vaccinated but blaming the unvaxed when it’s obvious there are breakthrough cases and spreads amongst other vaccinated people means we were sold a bill of goods that’s not true.
My problem isn’t that the vaccine isn’t as effective as advertised, it’s that it’s not as effective and then they’re doubling down on it being the only way through this.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 11:06 am to theunknownknight
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Why do you have to be a doctor to have an idea? The information is out there. You can teach yourself anything. Science is science. It's not rocket science.
Youre gonna teach yourself to be a doctor? lmfao
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