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re: Iceland & Israel are two of the most vaxx'ed countries in the world
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:56 am to Gravitiger
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:56 am to Gravitiger
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Couldn't it also be that many of the people most likely to die if they got COVID already died in previous waves?
I mean that's unlikely.
Only 100,000 people died in the UK.
I saw a study published last year that showed 300,000 - 400,000 were vulnerable in the UK.
So 100,000 dying didn't 'kill' them all as many people didn't even get infected.
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:02 am to DangerousWafer
quote:There are degrees of vulnerability. Not all of those 300-400K have the same risk factors.
I mean that's unlikely.
Only 100,000 people died in the UK.
I saw a study published last year that showed 300,000 - 400,000 were vulnerable in the UK.
So 100,000 dying didn't 'kill' them all as many people didn't even get infected.
How do you know they didn't get infected? "Vulnerable people" can still recover and some may not even show symptoms.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 8:03 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:02 am to DangerousWafer
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I saw a study published last year that showed 300,000 - 400,000 were vulnerable in the UK.
Because those are hard accurate numbers from the same people that are currently fumbling the handling of this 18 months into it
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:02 am to stout
Trump’s vaccine failed
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:03 am to NIH
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Trump’s vaccine failed
Man, you really got us on that one!
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:04 am to stout
That’s what we’re rooting for, right?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:05 am to DangerousWafer
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No, that LESS vaccinated are getting sick with COVID. Vaccines aren't 100% effective - vaccines have a 95% efficacy rate
That's not what you said
Further, the 95% is the relative risk reduction which doesn't really mean much when the absolute risk reduction is approaching zero.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:07 am to NIH
I'm not rooting for anything.
Maybe you are and that's why you are projecting.
Maybe you are and that's why you are projecting.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:07 am to DangerousWafer
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That's the whole point of covid vaccination - to reduce the number of deaths/severe effects of COVID. As long as they're not clogging up ICUs, it doesn't really matter.
No, people were told they wouldn’t get it and couldn’t spread it. That is not true.
If anything, this supports the argument that in no way should vaccines be mandated. It has little effect on others if I don’t get it and the only potential person I may harm by not getting it is myself.
Let people make up their own minds and take their own risks.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:07 am to NIH
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That’s what we’re rooting for, right?
What a moron
I HATED Trump's response to COVID - some of the most boneheaded moves in American History and I still would vote for him 100 out of 100 times over Hillary and Pedo Joe
Two things can be true at once
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 8:08 am
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:09 am to theunknownknight
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The unvaxxed in America did this to Iceland
Mosquitoes flew from the USA to Iceland and infected their populous
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:09 am to stout
Sure you aren’t
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:10 am to bizeagle
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Mosquitoes flew from the USA to Iceland and infected their populous
Thus the truth has been laid bare
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:10 am to DangerousWafer
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Look at the number of cases in August of 2020 compared with the number of cases in August of 2021. Far more cases now yet a similar number of deaths.
Absolutely zero credit given to the medical community for the ability to treat the virus over the last year huh?
And not to mention the number of cases may have something to do with the higher availability of tests. Further, more people are working in an office setting than a year ago, more kids going to school - the stakes are higher so more people getting tested.
Main point here is using cases for any sort of analysis is inherently faulty.
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Isn't that what vaccination is about? Reducing the number of deaths.
Are the results that significant though? I don’t disagree with you I just don’t know that about the underlying data or approach to analysis.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:11 am to theunknownknight
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I HATED Trump's response to COVID
Me too. Trump trusted too many of the idiots he should have gotten rid of like Fauci and it bit him in the arse.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:23 am to DangerousWafer
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Isn't that what vaccination is about? Reducing the number of deaths.
Sure. So why have they implemented new restrictions?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:23 am to OceanMan
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Are the results that significant though?
It’s not amazing at preventing infections. It looks to be pretty good at preventing deaths.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:28 am to DangerousWafer
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Look at the number of cases in August of 2020 compared with the number of cases in August of 2021. Far more cases now yet a similar number of deaths.
Alternatively, a strain that kills people rapidly will die off quickly. The key for a virus is to keep people alive, virulent, and highly symptomatic.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:28 am to the808bass
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Sure. So why have they implemented new restrictions?
Because the vulnerable people aren't getting vaccinated.
If it were only healthy young people not getting vaccinated, I don't think anybody would have a huge problem with them being unvaccinated.
The problem is that the people in ICUs are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. They should have got the vaccine because they're not healthy, young people.
Also, there might be a risk of new vaccine-resistant variants that spread through unvaccinated people but the risk of that is overblown.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:29 am to DangerousWafer
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have a 95% efficacy rate
And you’ve now lost all credibility. Not that you ever had any.
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