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Pfizer efficacy down to 42% while FDA standard for safe/effective/approval is 50%
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:40 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:40 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:12 am to Shaft Williams
Against the Delta variety.
If confirmed, they will not get full approval. Moderna fixing to eat.
If confirmed, they will not get full approval. Moderna fixing to eat.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:26 am to Shaft Williams
Jack Posobiec gives no context, of course. So I dug up the actual study. Here is what it says:
In other words, Moderna still going strong at 76%. Pfizer seems to be down to 42% against Delta insofar as protecting against infection.
However, they also said this:
As you can see above, Moderna was 91% effective at preventing hospitalization and Pfizer was at 85%. So let's not pretend it's the end of the world. Yes, the efficacy has decreased with Delta, but the beauty of mRNA is they can quickly tweak it for new variants (in like days). They don't have to grow or culture the virus to do this.
quote:
Both vaccines were highly effective during this study period against SARS-CoV-2 infection (mRNA-1273: 86%, 95%CI: 81-90.6%; BNT162b2: 76%, 95%CI: 69-81%) and COVID-19 associated hospitalization (mRNA-1273: 91.6%, 95% CI: 81-97%; BNT162b2: 85%, 95% CI:73-93%). However, in July, the effectiveness against infection was considerably lower for mRNA-1273 (76%, 95% CI: 58-87%) with an even more pronounced reduction in effectiveness for BNT162b2 (42%, 95% CI: 13-62%).
In other words, Moderna still going strong at 76%. Pfizer seems to be down to 42% against Delta insofar as protecting against infection.
However, they also said this:
quote:
Our observational study highlights that while both mRNA COVID-19 vaccines strongly protect against infection and severe disease, further evaluation of mechanisms underlying differences in their effectiveness such as dosing regimens and vaccine composition are warranted.
As you can see above, Moderna was 91% effective at preventing hospitalization and Pfizer was at 85%. So let's not pretend it's the end of the world. Yes, the efficacy has decreased with Delta, but the beauty of mRNA is they can quickly tweak it for new variants (in like days). They don't have to grow or culture the virus to do this.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:30 am to Shaft Williams
Does that mean the vax passports are no longer valid for Pfizer jabs?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 4:55 am to Shaft Williams
Don’t care. I am not vaccinated. I feel fine.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:11 am to Shaft Williams
Pfizer bux in the right hands= Breaking News--new standard for vaccine efficacy for Covid now at 42%
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:34 am to Shaft Williams
quote:me still not getting the jab
FDA standard for safe
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:59 am to Shaft Williams
Where is he getting the 42% efficacy claim? I’m not saying he’s wrong, but he doesn’t site any studies but simply makes a claim.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:49 am to Shaft Williams
Pfizer is turning out to be trash
moderna still okay
natural immunity is far superior (if you wanna *risk* catching covid)
I knew as soon as all midwits on the ot lounge started preaching about vaccinations that the wisest decision was to do the opposite
moderna still okay
natural immunity is far superior (if you wanna *risk* catching covid)
I knew as soon as all midwits on the ot lounge started preaching about vaccinations that the wisest decision was to do the opposite
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:55 am to Shaft Williams
quote:Oh for frick sakes people!
Pfizer efficacy down to 42%
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:00 am to Shaft Williams
How long does it take to start hearing Moderna jabs is causing the variants?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:12 am to Shaft Williams
Throw in like reason number 20 why I won't get the vaccine.
Yet I'm considered stupid and selfish.
Yet I'm considered stupid and selfish.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:19 am to Shaft Williams
"Efficacy" sounds so cool and hipster.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:37 am to Shaft Williams
I was exposed to several people who are really sick with Delta. I never got sick. I was face to face in a meeting in a cold board room for one hour.
The difference, myself and one other coworker have Pfizer from April and neither of us got sick or had a single symptom.
The others at the office aren’t vaccinated and now our company’s future is at risk along with their own health.
The difference, myself and one other coworker have Pfizer from April and neither of us got sick or had a single symptom.
The others at the office aren’t vaccinated and now our company’s future is at risk along with their own health.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:09 am to Shaft Williams
Those corrupt fricks will approve regardless
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:27 am to Shaft Williams
So, if I get the vaccine, I am not immune from Covid, but it can potentially lessen the effects of Covid upon me. Once I have recovered from Covid, the vaccine alone won’t prevent me from getting Covid again. I can still experience a breakthrough and even die as a vaccinated person.
If I don’t get the vaccine, contract Covid and ultimately recover without death, I could get Covid again and repeat the same cycle at a later date, worse impact and die.
In either scenario, I can be symptomatic and contagious, the only difference being that with the vaccine my case of Covid may be less severe.
All of this for a virus that there is a 99% survival rate in the aggregate. Seriously, Is that right or is my understanding wrong?
If I don’t get the vaccine, contract Covid and ultimately recover without death, I could get Covid again and repeat the same cycle at a later date, worse impact and die.
In either scenario, I can be symptomatic and contagious, the only difference being that with the vaccine my case of Covid may be less severe.
All of this for a virus that there is a 99% survival rate in the aggregate. Seriously, Is that right or is my understanding wrong?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:03 pm to Shaft Williams
To be fair, that paragraph is specific to the Delta variant.
That still isn't good, but it isn't about the over all efficacy.
That still isn't good, but it isn't about the over all efficacy.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:59 pm to Shaft Williams
quote:
Pfizer efficacy down to 42%
So well below 42%.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:14 pm to Shaft Williams
42% of the time it works every time
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