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Why is it so difficult for Hollywood to make good movies?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:56 pm
The tech is there.
There are obviously folks willing to write & direct.
Money is there.
But there seems to be zero original ideas.
It has been at least a decade since I looked forward to seeing a new movie in a theater.
What happened?
There are obviously folks willing to write & direct.
Money is there.
But there seems to be zero original ideas.
It has been at least a decade since I looked forward to seeing a new movie in a theater.
What happened?
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 10:57 pm
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:58 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Everything became offensive.
Can't do anything funny anymore.
Can't do anything funny anymore.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:58 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Risk vs reward.
Easy to keep pumping out comics or sequels.
Not nearly as interested in creativity. Always about the money.
Easy to keep pumping out comics or sequels.
Not nearly as interested in creativity. Always about the money.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:59 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Too woke.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:00 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Because boomers won’t retire. They give the green light and they refuse to gamble on anything that isn’t a remake or a sequel.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Such a lazy take, there are plenty of movies that are going to be released that were delayed or are in the process of being made. I’m not doing your research for you
Dune alone is going to be fricking great from what we have seen so far.
Dune alone is going to be fricking great from what we have seen so far.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:02 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I don't know for sure, but I suspect the proliferation of your Netflixes and Amazon Studios and the Hulu has something to do with it.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:05 pm to Eli Goldfinger
They can make more money by making shite remakes because there is already a fan base established which will introduce it to the younger generation..
Remakes do not appeal to me at all. Unless someone tells me "this one they really did a good job with" I am not watching it just because I liked the original when I was younger
Remakes do not appeal to me at all. Unless someone tells me "this one they really did a good job with" I am not watching it just because I liked the original when I was younger
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:06 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
But there seems to be zero original ideas.
It has been at least a decade since I looked forward to seeing a new movie in a theater.
I watched Netflix's "Movies that Made Us".
My take away was "how many great scripts/ideas for movies are rotting in storage units in the Los Angeles area b/c some idiot's ego?"
It blew me away how fickle and whimsical Hollywood can be.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:09 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
Why is it so difficult for Hollywood to make good movies?
2019 alone
Parasite
1917
Ford vs Ferrari
Knives out
Once upon a time in Hollywood
Like I said in the prior post, I’m not going through the entire decade.
Do you have shitty taste or do you just blindly complain?
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:12 pm to Eli Goldfinger
A) People are stupid
B)
B)
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:22 pm to Eli Goldfinger
1) Movies cost a lot to make now with all of the CGI and high paid actors. That level of investment means you can't just have a good story, you need a good business case, which often means tying it in to existing Intellectual Property rather than exploring original ideas.
1B) These Business reasons often get people that have very little to do with the story poking their fingers in the pot trying to get their agendas met.
2) The audience is changing and movies today aren't necessarily being aimed at you. This board is full of Gen Xers. Whatever this new generation is called is essentially a new generation like the hippies that have chosen social justice as their primary differentiator. They want to see Gen X's nostaligia "improved"/defiled by forced diversity and SJW agendas. People on this board get all conspiratorial about it like it's a political thing, it's an aiming at a new audience thing.
3) Coronavirus ground production to a halt and it's just now starting to recover. In the last year and a half it feels like they held any halfway decent movie back. It does feel like that's starting to change as production starts getting more normal.
1B) These Business reasons often get people that have very little to do with the story poking their fingers in the pot trying to get their agendas met.
2) The audience is changing and movies today aren't necessarily being aimed at you. This board is full of Gen Xers. Whatever this new generation is called is essentially a new generation like the hippies that have chosen social justice as their primary differentiator. They want to see Gen X's nostaligia "improved"/defiled by forced diversity and SJW agendas. People on this board get all conspiratorial about it like it's a political thing, it's an aiming at a new audience thing.
3) Coronavirus ground production to a halt and it's just now starting to recover. In the last year and a half it feels like they held any halfway decent movie back. It does feel like that's starting to change as production starts getting more normal.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:23 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Most of the people in charge at major studios aren’t willing to take financial or creative risk so most of the thinking by writers is dumbed down and they play it safe, which, in turn, leads to shite product. People have also brought this on themselves by not rewarding original movies by going to see them, preferring to wait on indie movies and going to the theater to see splosions instead of going to see both.
It’s like asking why so many bookstores are filled with absolutely shitty Westerns, Murder Mystery and Romance novels. It’s because people’s tastes in art has dwindled to where we enjoy really shitty products. Take my wife for example, enjoys the hell out of The Hunger Games but if I try to get her to read The Secret History or something like that…no dice. She will watch Marvel all day but didn’t like Arrival. And I get on her arse about it
Millions and millions of Americans are very similar and it’s even worse overseas. People enjoy shitty shite they can turn their brains off and not think. Movies like Parasite or Snowpiercer aren’t even on those people’s radars.
ETA: not to say I don’t enjoy my fair share of terrible movies. We all do. But I think there’s a difference between paying for that product in a theater and casually renting it for 3.99 and also knowing going into it that it’s garbage. Take Fast and Furious. I enjoy 5, 6 and 7, knowing good and well the only good movie is Fast Five and the rest are shite. Your casual fan can’t tell the difference and will then spend assloads at the theater to go see F9. People aren’t flocking to see A24’s The Green Knight though we know it will be a much better movie
It’s like asking why so many bookstores are filled with absolutely shitty Westerns, Murder Mystery and Romance novels. It’s because people’s tastes in art has dwindled to where we enjoy really shitty products. Take my wife for example, enjoys the hell out of The Hunger Games but if I try to get her to read The Secret History or something like that…no dice. She will watch Marvel all day but didn’t like Arrival. And I get on her arse about it
Millions and millions of Americans are very similar and it’s even worse overseas. People enjoy shitty shite they can turn their brains off and not think. Movies like Parasite or Snowpiercer aren’t even on those people’s radars.
ETA: not to say I don’t enjoy my fair share of terrible movies. We all do. But I think there’s a difference between paying for that product in a theater and casually renting it for 3.99 and also knowing going into it that it’s garbage. Take Fast and Furious. I enjoy 5, 6 and 7, knowing good and well the only good movie is Fast Five and the rest are shite. Your casual fan can’t tell the difference and will then spend assloads at the theater to go see F9. People aren’t flocking to see A24’s The Green Knight though we know it will be a much better movie
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
What happened?
Simple, likely answer? You stopped watching new movies.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
Nepotism
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:21 am to Eli Goldfinger
i mean there had to come a time where people started running out of ideas, right?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
What happened?
Harvey ' God ' Weinstein happened.
The simple truth is, everyone knew what was going on, and let it slide because the industry was making money. Don't ask, don't tell.
( There's also a political aspect, but I'll skirt that here )
So some of the truth comes out, it looks bad, and now Hollywood collectively has to bend the knee and perform a massive public mea culpa to the world.
Women are now superior, in every way, to men. And if you dare question ANYTHING, you're a misogynist , bigoted male with a fragile ego. Period, end of discussion.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
Banks.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Because, by the very nature of the beast, you are going to get more average movies and more piles of poo than good movies.
You might look back at, just a random date, 1937 and say "My God, look at all the classics that came out that year!"
They stand out because we overlook the piles of garbage movies from that same year that are forgotten now because they weren't classics.
You might look back at, just a random date, 1937 and say "My God, look at all the classics that came out that year!"
They stand out because we overlook the piles of garbage movies from that same year that are forgotten now because they weren't classics.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Because crap is what sells. Especially internationally (China in particular).
Aquaman - $1.15 billion box office
JoJo Rabbit - $90 million box office
The Death of Stalin - $25 million box office
There are still good movies, just not much demand for them.
Aquaman - $1.15 billion box office
JoJo Rabbit - $90 million box office
The Death of Stalin - $25 million box office
There are still good movies, just not much demand for them.
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