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re: Why is it so difficult for Hollywood to make good movies?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:34 am to Eli Goldfinger
Nepotism
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:00 am to Ed Osteen
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Well clearly nothing is going to make you happy then, proceed with your bitch fest. Hopefully a movie gets made to your quality soon
I wasn't the one bitching, I was just commenting on your anemic sample size.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 2:22 am to Saint Alfonzo
Old heads complaining all the time that new movies suck and movies were better back in their day and then they wonder why studios do a lot of sequels and remakes.
I’ve never understood the sentiment from some that sequels are automatically bad. Look if people enjoyed the original and there is a demand for a continuation, why shouldn’t there be more? I get it, some of them genuinely do suck. However, this whole notion that a bad sequel has any impact on the original is just silly.
There were over 900 movies released theatrically in 2018 and 2019 apiece. If you didn’t find at least a dozen movies to watch and enjoy, then that’s on you. I pulled up the list of the 100 highest grossing movies of 2018. I had heard of probably 95 of them and seen probably half or more of them. I had heard of at least a third of the next 100 after those.
In short, Hollywood makes plenty of movies, you just aren’t putting in any effort to find ones that interest you and rather piss and moan online about what’s popular to get your upvotes.
I’ve never understood the sentiment from some that sequels are automatically bad. Look if people enjoyed the original and there is a demand for a continuation, why shouldn’t there be more? I get it, some of them genuinely do suck. However, this whole notion that a bad sequel has any impact on the original is just silly.
There were over 900 movies released theatrically in 2018 and 2019 apiece. If you didn’t find at least a dozen movies to watch and enjoy, then that’s on you. I pulled up the list of the 100 highest grossing movies of 2018. I had heard of probably 95 of them and seen probably half or more of them. I had heard of at least a third of the next 100 after those.
In short, Hollywood makes plenty of movies, you just aren’t putting in any effort to find ones that interest you and rather piss and moan online about what’s popular to get your upvotes.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:06 am to TheeRealCarolina
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In short, Hollywood makes plenty of movies, you just aren’t putting in any effort to find ones that interest you and rather piss and moan online about what’s popular to get your upvotes.
I don't know why you and the other guy are responding to me, I'm not the one complaining about movies in here.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 3:55 am to Saint Alfonzo
the "Hollywood" you speak of is also producing an incredible amount of quality limited series and TV shows. There are plenty of good films being made yearly as well (do your homework) with many others that appeal directly to kids, foreign markets. Those might not be great, but serve their purpose.
so much bellyaching by the masses ... "no good new music, no new good movies ... ". You rarely hear this group say "no good new books" .... for obvious reasons.
Filmmaking is a tough art form and it relies on many factors to produce a great, or even good film. It's not easy in spite of the TD pundit's assessment.
so much bellyaching by the masses ... "no good new music, no new good movies ... ". You rarely hear this group say "no good new books" .... for obvious reasons.
Filmmaking is a tough art form and it relies on many factors to produce a great, or even good film. It's not easy in spite of the TD pundit's assessment.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 4:21 am to Eli Goldfinger
i mean there had to come a time where people started running out of ideas, right?
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
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What happened?
Harvey ' God ' Weinstein happened.
The simple truth is, everyone knew what was going on, and let it slide because the industry was making money. Don't ask, don't tell.
( There's also a political aspect, but I'll skirt that here )
So some of the truth comes out, it looks bad, and now Hollywood collectively has to bend the knee and perform a massive public mea culpa to the world.
Women are now superior, in every way, to men. And if you dare question ANYTHING, you're a misogynist , bigoted male with a fragile ego. Period, end of discussion.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:09 am to Ed Osteen
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2019 alone
I will be the first to admit that 2019 was a solid year for motion pictures. Besides the films you just listed, you also had other solid movies such as The Irishman, Jojo Rabbit, Little Women, and Marriage Story, to say nothing of Todd Phillips's remake of Taxi Driver (Joker). But it was also an exception to the rule for the 2010s. Much of the decade featured below-average films and many of the Best Picture nominees/winners wouldn't have had a prayer if they had been released during the 1990s.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 5:11 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:24 am to Eli Goldfinger
Banks.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Because, by the very nature of the beast, you are going to get more average movies and more piles of poo than good movies.
You might look back at, just a random date, 1937 and say "My God, look at all the classics that came out that year!"
They stand out because we overlook the piles of garbage movies from that same year that are forgotten now because they weren't classics.
You might look back at, just a random date, 1937 and say "My God, look at all the classics that came out that year!"
They stand out because we overlook the piles of garbage movies from that same year that are forgotten now because they weren't classics.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:55 am to Eli Goldfinger
Because crap is what sells. Especially internationally (China in particular).
Aquaman - $1.15 billion box office
JoJo Rabbit - $90 million box office
The Death of Stalin - $25 million box office
There are still good movies, just not much demand for them.
Aquaman - $1.15 billion box office
JoJo Rabbit - $90 million box office
The Death of Stalin - $25 million box office
There are still good movies, just not much demand for them.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:57 am to Ed Osteen
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Dune alone is going to be fricking great from what we have seen so far
But it is far from original
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:11 am to Ed Osteen
You forgot Joker and 1917. Good year indeed.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:18 am to Eli Goldfinger
They deserve some criticism but it's also our fault. Audiences only show up to mindless entertainment. And with the massive growth of the international market, especially China, it's not going to get any better.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:25 am to Eli Goldfinger
For me it's the lack of new movie stars. There are no new Tom Cruise's or Mel Gibson's because with wokism Hollywood is pretending that too many untalented and uncharismatic actors are "stars"
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:30 am to Corso
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For me it's the lack of new movie stars. There are no new Tom Cruise's or Mel Gibson's because with wokism Hollywood is pretending that too many untalented and uncharismatic actors are "stars"
TBF, the "movie star" was disappearing before this woke nonsense
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:33 am to rebelrouser
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You forgot Joker and 1917. Good year indeed.
Technically, The Gentlemen premiered in 2019.
2019 is classic movie year.
If COVID had not ruined the movie industry, we would probably have talked about how 2019 was a turning point in revitalizing Hollywood.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
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It has been at least a decade since I looked forward to seeing a new movie in a theater.
Seriously? I’m not gonna argue that Hollywood has been pumping out tons of good, original movies. But if there hasn’t been 1 movie you were wanting to see in a theater in 10 years, that’s on you
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 10:42 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:49 am to Eli Goldfinger
I think/hope it's just a phase. The 80s were similar to this in that political correctness got in the way of creativity. Hopefully people eventually get sick of it and start to make more edgy films again.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:00 am to Eli Goldfinger
*Hollywood makes a well-reviewed, good, original film that no one really sees.*
*Hollywood makes a poorly-reviewed, mediocre film based on established IP that makes an insane amount of money.*
The masses: “WHY WON’T HOLLYWOOD MAKE ORIGINAL FILMS?!”
*Hollywood makes a poorly-reviewed, mediocre film based on established IP that makes an insane amount of money.*
The masses: “WHY WON’T HOLLYWOOD MAKE ORIGINAL FILMS?!”
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