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re: Why is it so difficult for Hollywood to make good movies?

Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:37 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65122 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:37 am to
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I will say that some actors can get away with it like RDJ in Tropic thunder


Had that film been made in 2014 or 2015 instead of 2008, he likely doesn't get away with it. The fact that the film came out when it did, combined with the fact that he was satirizing method actors, gives him a pass. The film also touched upon it when Brandon T. Jackson's Alpa Chino ranted about the only good part for a black man being given to "Crocodile Dundee."
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:48 am to
Another issue that doesn’t get discussed is the fact that wide release movies from Hollywood (not indie movies) typically have incredibly huge budgets.

There’s no such thing as a “cheap” or “mid-budget” movie anymore.

Blade Runner 2049 was a good movie. But it made $240 million against a $150 million budget. I think ultimately it was an $80 million loss for Warner Bros.

Now, Blade Runner 2049 is a sequel, but it’s not a hot franchise like a comic book movie is. There’s no way it was ever going to be able to make the $320 million break-even point to be successful.

So why did it have to be made for $150 million? Villenueve made a just as visually compelling movie called Arrival for a mere $50 million.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15106 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 10:31 am to
Don't want to take big risks. You know critical success but financial failure risk loop.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9406 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Don't ask me where the comedies have gone. You think you would see more woke comedies or something like that, but even those movies aren't getting made. Hollywood just isn't banking on funny movies these days. (Or, if they are, they are banking on comedic action movies like the Guardians of the Galaxy.)

I think comedy is almost an entirely separate discussion. “Good” comedy movies are difficult to do well, and there aren’t a whole lot of people writing them. It’s a lot harder to make a funny, engaging feature-length film than a 30 minute sitcom.

There were some really funny movies produced from ~2005-2012, but when you look back at the most successful titles you realize that most of them came from either the Will Ferrell or Judd Apatow “camp” (or both). There are a few notable exceptions like The Hangover, but the influence Ferrell and Apatow had on comedy films in that period really can’t be understated.

I don’t know why those guys have stopped hammering out funny movies - maybe they ran out of material, or their brands of comedy got stale, but I don’t think it has much to do with PC culture. I think Superbad, The Other Guys, Step Brothers, The Goods, etc. would still be pretty damned funny and successful if they were released today instead of 10-15 years ago.

Regardless, I guess it’s a question of who’s going to pick up that mantle. Maybe it’s a matter of trust from the big studios, and nobody else has earned the confidence yet that those guys had 10 years ago.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 5:38 pm to
A large part of it is movie goers don't want to pay 40 plus dollars to watch a movie they may not like.
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