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John Hopkins - NO Proof any child has died of Covid.

Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:30 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9902 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:30 am
The left-leaning WSJ article...

A tremendous number of government and private policies affecting kids are based on one number: 335. That is how many children under 18 have died with a Covid diagnosis code in their record, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Yet the CDC, which has 21,000 employees, hasn’t researched each death to find out whether Covid caused it or if it involved a pre-existing medical condition.

My research team at Johns Hopkins worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia. If that trend holds, it has significant implications for healthy kids and whether they need two vaccine doses. The National Education Associationhas been debatingwhether to urge schools to require vaccination before returning to school in person. How can they or anyone debate the issue without the right data?

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This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120765 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to
Everybody with a brain knows this

School restrictions on kids under 12 or so is insane

And above 12 aint much different unless your kid has a BMI of 40
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:01 am
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to
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The left-leaning WSJ article...


You either don't read the WSJ on a daily basis or you are an idiot if you think its left leaning
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:33 am to
Arkansas reports first pediatric death


WRONG. Also, parishioners at our church in Little Rock all got it within their family. The pregnant Mother has been hospitalized and just lost the baby due to complications from Covid.

But I guess none of that matters. Micro chippers.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8083 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:34 am to
Well, that's exactly what my studies have shown too. None of the kids I know have died of COVID either.
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10943 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:34 am to
Trusting the wrong science again. The branch Covidians will be here soon to tell you which science to trust.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:35 am to
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The left-leaning WSJ article...


Huh? When the hell has the WSJ been left leaning in anything?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:36 am to
tigerbandpiccolo and lsunurse will not like this
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49284 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:36 am to
I know it’s not trendy on the OT to be concerned for the kids, but this new strain is ripping through Little Rock pediatric community. Sure, they’re not all hospitalized at this time but we know more than a dozen kids in our own little circle that have it and they are extremely sick.

We knew plenty of kids who had it early this year and were barely even symptomatic. This strain is affecting kids differently.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99808 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:37 am to
But...the 5 year old in Georgia...?
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:41 am to
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but y'alls obsession with this is wild.

I think we can all agree that for an individual covid is about the same as the flu. But surely we can all agree it's way more contagious than the flu.

And if you had an outbreak of flu at a school, where it was spreading like wildfire and getting staff and kids sick, making parents miss work, etc. you'd probably want to you know... stop the spread of it.

But not with covid just because? Y'all are retarded about this.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23455 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:43 am to
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John Hopkins - NO Proof any child has died of Covid.


This should be expanded to even higher age brackets to shake the fear out of people. It would do this country a lot of good.

When people start digging into the "healthy 29 year old drops dead of covid" headlines the information almost always never supports the claim.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18431 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:50 am to
If you champion the vaccine then you need to be fair on this point: children aren't greatly affected by COVID. We shouldn't be basing policy on them or forcing restrictions because they can't be vaccinated. They, more often than not, don't need to be.

That said, the "if you ignore the kids who had stuff other than covid, then no kids really died of covid" argument seems dishonest to me (especially when you expand it to the population at large, which I'll explain in a second). Some kids have pre-existing conditions, and they should be the exception, not the norm, for kids requiring a shot. But that's no reason to enact restrictions or make policy for kids as a whole.

No one (intelligent) is arguing that lots of totally healthy people are dropping dead only from COVID. The larger focus should be that lots of people do have comorbidities, and that's why a vaccine is a short term fix, with healthy lifestyle changes being necessary in the long term.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
5085 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:54 am to
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Johns Hopkins


FIFY
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24005 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:12 am to
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John Hopkins - NO Proof any child has died of Covid

It's actually an Opinion piece and not a report by "Johns Hopkins."

Nevertheless, there is a serious issue here with the apparent (obvious) ability of the child and adolescent population to fight off Covid more effectively than the adult and senior population. By now we should have enough data to adjust the public health response.

Also, if one of the primary reasons for masking at school and on-line learning is to protect the teachers and other adults in the system, then perhaps the more effective approach is to ensure that the adults are either vaccinated or sign waivers accepting the risk of working unvaccinated. Put the responsibility on the people most likely to require more extreme protection methods.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55468 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 12:30 pm to
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John(sic) Hopkins

Ahhh....the institution that said rioting....err....protests can't spread Covid. Gotta love you some John(sic) Hopkins.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5113 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 6:20 am to
It's kids. There are more of them produced every day, so they're a replenishable resource. Use 'em for research, kinda like rabbits and mice.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41912 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:05 am to
I took the Pfizer vaccine because I have a serious health condition but I refuse to let my wife or children take it. Once it gets full FDA approval I want my wife to get it but I damn sure won’t let my children take it until millions of other children have had it for years without any side effects. My kids come first above all else and my job is to protect them. The vaccine needle isn’t going anywhere near my kids.
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