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Lonzo Ball's projection - 4 years/$100 million (John Hollinger)
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:36 am
Athletic - Paywall
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There’s a lot of buzz that Lonzo Ball may be available, including recent reporting from The Athletic’s Shams Charania, and that could offer an opportunity to get a starting-caliber, 23-year-old point guard in the free-agent market for a needy team. Obviously, the Knicks are the first place to start because they’re always the first place to start with free agents, but teams like Chicago, Dallas, Miami or Toronto could all be players here. (And if we want to get crazy, how about a Lonzo-Lowry sign-and-trade?)
The idea that Ball can’t shoot is now officially tired; he made 37.8 percent of his 3s at a high volume and shot 78.1 percent from the line last year, and is at 35.3 percent career from 3. The bigger misgiving is about his shot creation inside the arc and his still-iffy ability to run pick-and-roll in the half court. Ball can guard the position and is gifted in transition, but he works best with another perimeter shot creator.
As a result, teams are likely to pump the brakes well short of a max contract on Ball. Something in the range of four years and $100 million seems a more likely ceiling given the offensive concerns; that’s already spendy for somebody who can be the third-best player on a good team but probably no more than that.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:43 am to hendersonshands
$25 Million/year for some half a-- NBA player. Another example of what is wrong with Pro Sports
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:44 am to PUB
Hopefully it ends up being Chicago’s problem.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:45 am to hendersonshands
Hollinger is always wrong on these. Way wrong.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:12 am to PUB
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Another example of what is wrong with Pro Sports
please explain
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:22 am to hendersonshands
If he wants $25 million/year, then bye bye. The absolute most I'd give for someone like him is maybe $16-18 million. He's not even close to being worth $25 million.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:35 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Agree. Probably why he is not in the NBA any longer. I do not see Ball getting that much, but if he does, it better be from someone other than the Pels.
Hollinger is always wrong on these. Way wrong.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:43 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Hollinger didn’t say he expects Ball to get 25mil/4yrs, he said that is where he would put the absolute ceiling someone might pay. So the title of thread is a bit misleading there.
And the only team I could see throwing that kind of money out is probably NY. I think it would be a huge mistake but if they feel they are going to strike out on bigger names Lonzo makes sense as a backup plan. And 20+ feels like the number that we assuredly walk away from.
And the only team I could see throwing that kind of money out is probably NY. I think it would be a huge mistake but if they feel they are going to strike out on bigger names Lonzo makes sense as a backup plan. And 20+ feels like the number that we assuredly walk away from.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:25 am to hendersonshands
25 a year? Absolutely not. Runaway from that as fast as you can.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:33 am to hendersonshands
His projection is based solely on an analytic formula, which he states multiple times in the article likely won’t be correct due to things that formula can’t pick up.
Like he has Norm Powell for 12.5 Mil or something a year, which he states is extremely light. And I agree, norm Powell will get like 18 mil at least.
Like he has Norm Powell for 12.5 Mil or something a year, which he states is extremely light. And I agree, norm Powell will get like 18 mil at least.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 10:58 am to DallasTiger45
If he can get 25M a year then go for him. I just don’t want the Pels to do it. Hopefully, we can get something from him leaving tho.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:37 am to hendersonshands
I think that would be the absolute max we match. And even then if we do, we probably try to trade before those later higher years.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:44 am to hendersonshands
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4 years/$100 million
Farewell, Lonzo.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:51 am to hendersonshands
Well we are dealing with the GM that overpaid Steven Adams by around 8 million a year so it wouldn’t shock me in least if he matched a contract for Lonzo at 25 a year. That’d be about 8-10 more than he should get.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 12:12 pm to hendersonshands
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4 years/$100 million
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 12:41 pm to Sheep
Here ya go.
I didn't watch enough of Powell this season to put a good number on him. How would you compare his value to Lonzo's? Who is worth more?
I didn't watch enough of Powell this season to put a good number on him. How would you compare his value to Lonzo's? Who is worth more?
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/17/21 at 1:16 pm to hendersonshands
Nah, I think the ceiling is 21 for him. It's really 20 but I guess you give another mil to give him a victory. 25? Nahhhhh
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:13 pm to Townedrunkard
Yup, I don’t trust Griff until he proves himself otherwise. I have very low expectations this offseason.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:17 pm to GOP_Tiger
I would take Powell over Lonzo if Lonzo is getting 25 but Powell is more of a SG than Lonzo in my opinion
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:44 pm to tigersmanager
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I would take Powell over Lonzo if Lonzo is getting 25 but Powell is more of a SG than Lonzo in my opinion
I don't know if the Knicks would go after both. The Knicks are poised for a hell of an offseason. They have a ton of cap space (50M+), plus two late 1sts. Also, they probably want to dump Ntilikina, Toppin and Knox. The only FA they might want to retain is Noel. It could be a drastically different looking team..
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