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re: Hernan Cortez began the liberation of Mexico 500 years ago today...

Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:31 am to
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:31 am to
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Hernan Cortez began the liberation of Mexico 500 years ago today...



Posted by Twenty 49
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:32 am to
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Imagine walking and fighting up and down Mexico for 16 years.


We couldn't last a day with the clothes, footwear, and gear they had. No Gore-Tex, Smart Wool socks, or Coleman stove. Not even a flashlight or so much as a match (invented 1827).
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:40 am to
they sent spainish forces to arrest cortez
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:53 am to
Guaranteed way to conquer Mexico. Land at Vera Cruz and march to Mexico City/Tenochtitlan.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:53 am to
This is a serious puff piece right here.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:54 am to
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RollTide1987
You post the best threads.

But ”liberation” is not the Mexican version of events
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:05 am to
OK, I get it. Spanish good humanitarians for liberating Mexico from Aztecs for land, gold, and power, but we’re bad because English liberated our country from warring and often blood thirsty natives for land, wealth, and power.





Posted by alajones
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:14 am to
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But ”liberation” is not the Mexican version of events
. Liberated Meso-America of 50% of their population between disease, war, and the ensuing famine that followed.

Plus he likely strangled his own wife.
Posted by eddieray
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:15 am to
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But ”liberation” is not the Mexican version of events


Come on man they even provided blankets for them.
Posted by Draque Fiero
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:15 am to
Aztec and Aztec Autumn by Gary Jennings are really entertaining historical fiction novels about the conquest.

Aztec and Aztec Autumn
Posted by suavecito80
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:16 am to
It helped that smallpox kind of killed a bunch of Aztecs beforehand or were sick.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:18 am to
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Plus he likely strangled his own wife.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:27 am to
Punta Cana us still 90% pure Aztecan blood to this day.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:06 am to
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sounds to me like there was enough blood thirst to go around for everybody


Right? Cortez's native allies would go on to slaughter thousands of women and children.
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:16 am to
Smallpox is a hell of a weapon
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:54 am to
The initial contact with the Aztecs at Tenochtitlan is what is most interesting to me. Montecazuma pretty much welcomed Cortes as a god (there was apparently a legend of a pale skinned god arriving from across the sea). Upon confirmation of the Aztec riches, they murdered the emperor (there is some question as to the circumstances) and left the capital city carrying as much gold as they could, to the point that some of Cortes’s men drowned in the escape carrying more than they could. Since Cortes had burned his ships upon arrival at the Mexican mainland as a sign to his men that there would be no retreat, they really had nowhere to go. They just laid low and let the disease that they’d exposed the natives to ravage the population, then invaded later and conquered them fairly easily.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:05 am to
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Punta Cana

I wonder how the weather affected Cortes' trip there.
Posted by mule74
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:14 am to
I was driving recently from Phoenix to Palm Springs with my camper, and I was remarking to my wife how crazy it must’ve been for the first conquistadors to discover that area. Imagine having been born in a village in Spain and coming to the Americas to find this vast territory. Huge mountains, deserts, etc. It had to truly feel like they were on the moon.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:18 am to
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Thank God. Probably wouldve never met my wife. Father is from Mexico.

Posted by Nigel Farage
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 10:30 am to
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I was driving recently from Phoenix to Palm Springs with my camper, and I was remarking to my wife how crazy it must’ve been for the first conquistadors to discover that area. Imagine having born in a village in Spain and coming to the Americas ago find this vast territory. Huge mountains, deserts, etc. It had to truly feel like they were on the moon.


And thats not even getting into the wildlife. Imagine coming across the Atlantic ocean to see the crocodiles and alligators inhabiting these swamps. Or the plumage on the different bird species with all of their marvelous colors or all the different snakes that can kill you with ease. Scorpions and tarantulas that can fling their leg hairs at you to irritate your eyes. Yea it really was the New World they came too.
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