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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?

Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:37 pm to
Go out in to the general public and ask them why they chose the computer they chose. I bet you get very little meaningful insight and a whole lot of "X is the best", "was on sale", "heard about it from...", "idk" etc. Why are you playing into the this public market share angle banking your argument on the logic of people who generally don't know shite about computers, much like you who has yet to provide any technical reasoning behind your claim other than they're silver and don't tire out your spaghetti arms and you think your iOS looks pretty.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 5:38 pm
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 6:03 pm to
So, given the choice, more people choose Windows PCs. Value for the money is one of the reasons PCs are better than Macs. And that's not an appeal to the lowest common denominator. Because Windows also runs on the most expensive hardware can buy. Compatibility with more hardware is another reason PCs are better than Macs.

Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 8:21 am to
I run two Dell PCs that are like 5 and 7 years old respectively. They don't really slow down because I run CCleaner regularly. Changing parts, adding RAM, etc is simple enough to do without needing specialized knowledge. It's harder to do self maintenance and repair on MAcs as far as I know. I like that running multiple monitors is easy to do on these (can you do that on Macs?). Microsoft OneDrive instantly updates and syncs documents and files between the computers, and I can more or less instantly access the files from my Android and iPad applications. Also I use many of the Windows Office programs and other Windows only software programs that would be a hassle to use on the Macs.

Also, the prices are way better.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:34 am to
I used to love the tinker with my PC based hardware, like upgrading RAM, video cards, etc.. I'm not really interested in that any longer and I just want something that works. Apple products just work. Add a new phone, affirm the new phone and its synched. Same with iPads, Apple Watch, or any other Apple product. No tinkering or troubleshooting necessary.

I've worked for multiple tech companies and I've been issued both PC and Apple laptops. I used to hate being issued Macbooks and would always switch if I had the option. Only because many of the functions and shortcuts were different in a Mac environment. Now that I'm well-versed I doubt I'll ever buy a PC based system again. I'm currently running a Macbook Pro with a 27" monitor in the home office.

Performance-wise it really doesn't affect me either way and I doubt there's all that much difference anyway given similar chipsets and hardware. All I use is the Mac-based Office suite, internet, and dabble in some HTML as a hobby. Also some Saas-based platforms.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:59 am to
Is ccleaner legit?
Posted by Grievous Angel
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:30 am to
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Is ccleaner legit?


I used it for a while. I've seen people go both ways, with folks cringing at the idea that there's a cleaner that can "clean" the registry without causing issues.

I used it for a long time without issue.

However, I no longer do. Win 10 is pretty stable, and if you aren't uninstalling/installing a lot of stuff all the time your registry should be fine.

Plus it's just a piece of cake to just reset your computer these days.
Posted by BeepNode
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 12:17 pm to
For home use and dev work I prefer macs. A Mac with Logic Pro X is highly preferred for audio production although windows options are just fine especially if you have money for 3rd party software plugins. I live the Linux-like nature of Macs but Windows has come a long way with powershell and package managers.

For office environments it’s windows for me especially if there’s a lot of file organization going on. I actually don’t like managing macs on our network.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 3:46 pm to
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I used to love the tinker with my PC based hardware, like upgrading RAM, video cards, etc.. I'm not really interested in that any longer and I just want something that works. Apple products just work. Add a new phone, affirm the new phone and its synched. Same with iPads, Apple Watch, or any other Apple product. No tinkering or troubleshooting necessary.

I've worked for multiple tech companies and I've been issued both PC and Apple laptops. I used to hate being issued Macbooks and would always switch if I had the option. Only because many of the functions and shortcuts were different in a Mac environment. Now that I'm well-versed I doubt I'll ever buy a PC based system again. I'm currently running a Macbook Pro with a 27" monitor in the home office.

Performance-wise it really doesn't affect me either way and I doubt there's all that much difference anyway given similar chipsets and hardware. All I use is the Mac-based Office suite, internet, and dabble in some HTML as a hobby. Also some Saas-based platforms


Good points. I'm not against Macs and may use them at some point once my current rigs go out. Still I'll need a good reason to pay the price premium.
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 3:54 pm
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I used it for a while. I've seen people go both ways, with folks cringing at the idea that there's a cleaner that can "clean" the registry without causing issues.

I used it for a long time without issue.

However, I no longer do. Win 10 is pretty stable, and if you aren't uninstalling/installing a lot of stuff all the time your registry should be fine.

Plus it's just a piece of cake to just reset your computer these days.


I've been using it for a while without issue. It only helps speed things up. One of my machines was off for like 2 years and I recently had to run all the Windows updates for that period. CCleaner registry cleaner really helped speed up that cumbersome process.

On my daily Windows 10 machine I run CCleaner a couple times a month and it usually finds stuff to clean off the registry.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:06 am to
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Good points. I'm not against Macs and may use them at some point once my current rigs go out. Still I'll need a good reason to pay the price premium.
I've only owned two Macbook Pros other than what I've used for work. I've also only owned two iPhones, iPads and Apple Watches. Before those it was all PC and Andriod hardware.

In my limited experience, the Mac laptops seem to last longer and perform better over time than a similar PC laptop. Also, simply by nature of far less users there are less viruses that you have to deal with compared to windows based systems. Given those two assumptions the prices are probably comparable, but your calculus may be different.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 8:07 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:30 am to
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In my limited experience, the Mac laptops seem to last longer and perform better over time than a similar PC laptop.


This is 100% anecdotal and not factual.

The only factual piece of this is if you use an ancient laptop with a mechanical hard drive and old versions of MacOS. Windows 10 does perform slowly with a spinning disk, so does recent versions of MacOS, but it still does better than windows.

A W10 laptop with 8-16gb of RAM and an SSD will live just as long and healthy of a life as an Apple Device.

In the end, both operating systems are great. Just use what you like and quit being that someone else likes the other
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:16 pm to
I got my MacBook Air in 2011 and it is absolutely perfect to this day
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 1:20 pm to
I have a 2012 Lenovo x1 Carbon that still cold boots in seconds, runs applications seamlessly, has zero issues whatsoever
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

This is 100% anecdotal and not factual.

The only factual piece of this is if you use an ancient laptop with a mechanical hard drive and old versions of MacOS. Windows 10 does perform slowly with a spinning disk, so does recent versions of MacOS, but it still does better than windows.

A W10 laptop with 8-16gb of RAM and an SSD will live just as long and healthy of a life as an Apple Device.

In the end, both operating systems are great. Just use what you like and quit being that someone else likes the other

I was curious about this and there are academic research papers written about this subject. You can find this subject on Google Scholar or Web of Science if you have access through a University. The most recent paper I found was from 2016, which may predate new hard drive tech. In terms of useful life-cycle Mac outlasts the PC by 22 months on average. Most of which in this paper was attributed to the varying hardware found in PCs, particularly on the low end of the market. If you've got a higher-end PC machine it probably doesn't matter.

If computer police broke down my door and insisted I use a PC machine I'd have no problem with it. I don't know where you formed the notion I was apeing for Mac stuff.
Posted by ZydecoTigah
walker LA
Member since Sep 2010
447 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 7:15 pm to
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Rarely used any of the software on windows. Got a MacBook and will never go back. It's synced with my iPhone, very nice.


My Hp with windows 10 is synced with my iPhone, thought all win 10 pcs could?
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1388 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Most of which in this paper was attributed to the varying hardware found in PCs, particularly on the low end of the market


BREAKING: $1500 MBP outlast $500 Laptop PC with shitty hardware. Gimme a fricking break. The study is irrelevant at best and bullshite at worst. This thread is full of apple fanbois wanting to compare a 4 figure laptop to mid-low 3 figure windows laptops.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 9:48 pm to
I get texts on my iPad all day. Kids get texts on their MacBooks too.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18263 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:55 am to
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Most of which in this paper was attributed to the varying hardware found in PCs, particularly on the low end of the market. If you've got a higher-end PC machine it probably doesn't matter.


This is basically it. If you compare spec to spec from Mac to Windows, there is virtually going to be no difference in lifespan.
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1774 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:40 pm to
My PC is from 2007 or 2008, can't remember the exact year, but it is a 1st gen i7, all original equipment (MB etc.) and is still running strong. It triple boots Win 7, Win 10, and Linux Mint Cinnamon. How do you Mac fan bois explain that? Oh! It boots really fast too. Win 7 in 36 seconds, 10 in 24 seconds and Mint in 14 seconds. I have an older Asus W90 doing the same thing with Win 7 and Mint 20. I bought that laptop back before Katrina. I wonder how these Mac Boi's can explain again how PCs are inferior to Mac?
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18263 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 1:52 pm to
Mac can dual boot Windows and MacOS
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