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Fat Batman
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Well for starters it doesn't have a look and feel interface like it was designed by Mickey Mouse.


you're out of your element buddy. Nothing but regurgitating baseless opinions you read somewhere else.


Sigma
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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yall are arguing with Gman, you could literally show him a test where the apple computer or iphone failed and he was say it didnt.


Lol, you’re the Windows version of Gman.


CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Lol, you’re the Windows version of Gman.
when have i ever lectured people about windows? You trying to act cool and all talking shite.


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TigerGman
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?




Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...


CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...
IDK what you are trying to day? If you dont like the tile look you can use the typical windows desktop. But i do agree iOS does look like it is designed for a kid or an 80 yo.


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wheelr
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
GUIs are for kids. Real men use a CLI.


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SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
71083 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...



Yeah, except that is not what Windows looks like anymore.


CarRamrod
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Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
53365 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Yeah, except that is not what Windows looks like anymore.

its like arguing with a toddler. My 2 year old would give a better rebuttal than that geezer Gman.
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Fat Batman
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Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
843 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
I didn't even know Windows ever looked like that. I just thought there was a bunch of widgets/menus opened.

Gman, click that Launchpad icon on your mac, look at your iphone or iPad. All of them tiled apps GUI if that is what you are calling "Mickey Mouse".


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Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Sorority girls and hipsters use Macs. People who work in the real world use PCs.



Almost every professional I know uses a MBP at home and owns an iPhone

The art student and girl trope is a bit outdated


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Grievous Angel
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...


Idiot has a full screen start menu.

As if you can't customize it, change your wallpaper, etc.



Grievous Angel
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Almost every diva I know uses a MBP at home and owns an iPhone


Pettifogger
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
Few things display a lack of self-awareness quite like socially awkward IT nerds shitting on adult, professional Mac users as being girly



Korkstand
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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Few things display a lack of self-awareness quite like socially awkward IT nerds shitting on adult, professional Mac users as being girly

Except maybe the Mac user calling Windows "Mickey Mouse"?


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TigerGman
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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diot has a full screen start menu.

As if you can't customize it, change your wallpaper, etc.


In other words the default design looks like shite so I have to change it all up. Says a lot about Windows appeal to the lowest common denominator.


Korkstand
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Plaquemine, LA
Member since Nov 2003
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re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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In other words the default design looks like shite so I have to change it all up. Says a lot about Windows appeal to the lowest common denominator.
You have the most bass-ackwards takes on everything.



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OSoBad
USA Fan
Member since Nov 2016
1149 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
Compare an M1 Macbook Air VS a similarly priced Window's machine and the performance isn't close. There are hundreds of YouTube videos proving this. Even much more expensive Window's computers can't hang. At this same price point, it's also easy to say that build quality is much better but that is subjective. Some people prefer a plastic computer vs all aluminum.

I have both, it's all a personal preference. Hating on something because of a stereotype is dumb though, I love my Mac and and am the farthest thing from a hipster. I just like quality stuff that lasts a long time.


Fat Batman
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Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
843 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
The Macbook air comes with 8GB ram and integrated graphics for $1000 - $1250 depending on storage and up to $1450 if you want 16GB of RAM. I don't even know if I can find a windows machine in that price range without 16GB ram and discrete graphics. I've seen the selective reviews and the charts showing the M1's R23 scores against other CPUs' R20 scores. The M1 chip does have great performance. You can get a laptop with 4000 series Ryzen with 2000 series Nvidia graphics which probably isn't even going to have an option for less than 16GB RAM in the same price range as the Macbook Air and it is going to smoke the shite out of the Macbook Air in real-world applications running things like Photoshop, MS Office, video editing, etc. etc. I'lll even throw the Macbook pro in there as getting it's dick kicked in. You can upgrade the RAM on the Macs for probably an outrageous price (non-user-serviceable) and close some of the gaps, but the windows machine is still going to smoke the macs on anything video/graphics related. So saying the Macbook Air compared to similarly priced Windows machines (as if the MB Air is some kind of value ) "isn't close" shows how deep your fanboi-ism is and how shallow your knowledge of computers is.
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Hopeful Doc
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Member since Sep 2010
12644 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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The Macbook air comes with 8GB ram and integrated graphics



Yeah- m1 have “pretty good for integrated” graphics, but I think even a 1050 would still push the performance of anything else down.


He’s probably referring to a few benchmarks which the m1 performs great on, not any real GPU-intensive applications. He’s not wrong that for what 85% of people use it for, it’s no worse than any other computer out there, but the suggestion that it can even compete in its price range with some of the lower-end gaming laptops is sort of silly. They can probably browse the internet at roughly equal speeds, and you won’t miss much on the m1 when you’re doing some light work- it actually runs photoshop pretty well. If your files are from a phone camera, and you’re adding filters, you aren’t missing out on much by not springing for a “heavier duty” laptop, but you aren’t going to render video anything like a discreet GPU, which are readily available in this price range.


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You can upgrade the RAM on the Macs


I posted in one thread about my memory management issue on an 8gb RAM MacBook Air (I think it’s the model with the 8-core GPU because I couldn’t find the 7-core available). This hasn’t been much of an issue for me. The main reason I bought it was that I was looking for accurate speech to text. The gold standard is Dragon Naturally Speaking which costs more than this laptop. I had bought one of the Mac Mini with an m1 as a toy. I like GarageBand and the wife and I do a little home studio stuff, and it’s simple enough to be able to teach her (I miss using Ardour on an Ubuntu box, but that’s not happening with her…). I was actually really impressed with the speech to text ability that comes native with it. Found out eventually that it was licensed from the makers of Dragon. Further, within the last two months or so, Microsoft announced the acquisition of canonical Hopefully, a similar product will be seen in/on Cortana. And yes- I compared the integrated speech to text of OSX to dragon’s speech to text feature. The price comparison isn’t fair given the template and other features found in Dragon, but those don’t flow with my EHR nearly as much and are a little “too much” for what I need.


So, now that RAM management hasn’t been an issue, the machine is fine for very basic web-browser access, speech to text, long battery life, portability. But in terms of “feel” of quality or actual performance in these functions, it’s certainly not head and shoulders above a Surface Laptop 3 (I think this is a fair comparison for a compact, aluminum 13” computer around $1000).
Surface gets you a touch screen extra
Mac let’s you use your iPad as a second wireless display (without touch)
When you look at benchmarks, you may see a difference. If you sit there and try to convert videos from format A to B to stress cpu out to prove which ones faster, you may find a winner in the Mac (this comparison ignores all the laptops with a discreet GPU, because no one who essentially even knows what this is is considering a post Intel Mac), but if these things aren’t part of your actual day, I don’t think you’re going to notice a difference in daily talks on one to the other to call one a real “performance” winner.

Now, if you want to maybe talk about the ins/outs of a specific program or three where you’re spending 90+% of your time, you may argue an m1 is the best value to do those things and that the horsepower isn’t lacking, but you’ll probably find yourself arguing benchmarks and repetitive sequence testing rather than actual daily performance


Fat Batman
LSU Fan
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
843 posts

re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?
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but if these things aren’t part of your actual day, I don’t think you’re going to notice a difference in daily talks on one to the other to call one a real “performance” winner.



Yes, if you don't do anything that requires a laptop with higher performance hardware then you are not going to notice a performance difference between a $1200 Macbook Air and a $200 Chromebook. If this is your use case you shouldn't be spending more than ~$700 on a laptop. And yes you can still get one with an aluminum body at that price point before you start going on about "build-quality".

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you may argue an m1 is the best value to do those things


I can't think of any use case where a Macbook Air or Pro represents a value. IMO, at all price points it is overpriced $/performance considering what you can get out of a Windows machine.

general comment not directed to who i replied:
Look I get it, Apple is king of marketing and you fell for it. I don't care how you choose to spend your money and I'm sure the Macbook works great for you, just don't come in here trying to spin that bull shite like the M1 is some revolutionary thing when it gets smoked by laptops it competes directly with on price when it comes to actually using said laptop to run programs that require higher spec hardware. Maybe it's a stepping stone for the future, but as it stands now it's a fart in the wind with a hell of a marketing team and YouTube shills behind it.
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