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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software

Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:42 pm to
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Why would a database management system be present and utilized on a machine that is specifically not supposed to be connected to the internet


MS SQL Server can be utilized strictly locally....I guess the "Server" is a bit of a misnomer in that instance but it can happen.

I think the biggest news here is if all the MS SQL tools, or 3rd party tools, are available on that machine one would have to assume that someone had the security to use those tools which would have allowed them to update records behind the scenes potentially with no evidence left behind of what they had done if they were competent in the technology.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:43 pm to
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I do.

What point are you making?


I can't wait to hear it.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62544 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:43 pm to
One thing everyone should know, if it has Microsoft hardware, it can be hacked by almost anyone, anywhere.....,
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:44 pm to
Powerbottom says un huh.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:44 pm to
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It's an illegal software on voting machine.


Microsoft SQL is illegal now

Please drop this. You look really stupid by propagating this nonsense.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32363 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Yes. But if it's not supposed to be on there, it's not supposed to be on there.

So what was supposed to be on there; Oracle, home grown? I don't see the problem but not sure I understand all I need to know about it. A little context would be helpful.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
Why yes, I do.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Does it matter? It's an unauthorized software on the machines that is not suppose to be.


Yeah it does matter. Because SQL isn't fricking "software" so much as it is a language for querying databases.

That's like saying OMG C++ was on the machines!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56707 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
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You don't need a SQL Management tool to modify a database. And if each machine holds a SQL database that enables remote access, the remote party also doesn't need that software as it's built into literally every programming language.



This is true, but this system DID have this software. So, they've shown a viable method of updating the remote database remotely via a single machine.

Many programs could have been used, but he existence of this software proves the possibility. SSMS provides a method and an interface. And, it's a software that is not supposed to exist on these systems.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10104 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
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No.. No it doesn't. It's an illegal software on voting machine.


From what I read, this software being installed would violate Dominion policy. It's not illegal to have it, but its inclusion on a machine would certainly raise a lot of questions on security.

If these machines individually count votes and store them in an internal database, then they would obviously need some database software installed. If they used MS SQL Server, they'd have to use that because it's the only way to run a MS SQL database locally.

And if they're running another database software than the MS SQL Server software would be worthless to change votes because different flavors of databases speak different variants of SQL, have different connection protocols, etc.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5281 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Microsoft SQL Server is a relational database management system developed by Microsoft. As a database server, it is a software product with the primary function of storing and retrieving data as requested by other software applications—which may run either on the same computer or on another computer across a network.

Why would a database management system be present and utilized on a machine that is specifically not supposed to be connected to the internet...Powerman?



Powerman will be along any minute now to tell us orangeman bad and ask if we've ever heard about Russia collusion and hookers pissing on Trump because all of that is way more important than worrying about rigging election machines.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:46 pm to
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Microsoft SQL is illegal now


To be on voting machines. Yes! Thus it's certification. That means the machines lost it's certification. Thus the vote can not be certified.

This is not hard.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:46 pm to
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This is true, but this system DID have this software

It's a language, not a software.

It might help if useless OP could post a fricking link so we knew what he was actually trying to talk about instead of listening to him vomit his retardation all over the place as usual.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
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So, they've shown a viable method of updating the remote database remotely via a single machine.


So they have also shown that the machine was connected to a local network or the internet....It's hard to believe that these machines would be so susceptible to risk, but at the same time given what we are talking about it's not really that hard to believe.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10104 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
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So, they've shown a viable method of updating the remote database remotely via a single machine.


I haven't seen that demonstrated. Again, if those machines were "dialing out" to update a remote database, they wouldn't be using SQL Server, they'd be using a MS SQL library in the language of their choice.

Same if it were a local database. SQL Server is simply the database software. Updates (inserts/deletions) would be found in software.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Powerman will be along any minute now to tell us orangeman bad and ask if we've ever heard about Russia collusion and hookers pissing on Trump because all of that is way more important than worrying about rigging election machines.

I'm not here to say any of that.

I'm hear to say OP is a fricking moron and is just vomiting bullshite that he doesn't understand all over the board and every low IQ person here will lap it up and every smart person will laugh him off like the moron that he is.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:48 pm to
Not a smidgen of fraud
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:48 pm to
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It's a language, not a software.


SQL is the language....I thought we were talking specifically about the MS SQL Sever database engine.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10104 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

It's a language, not a software.


MS SQL Server is software. It's the database software for MS SQL/TSQL
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Explain this to me like I’m 5.....



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