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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to Powerman
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to Powerman
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Yeah it does matter. Because SQL isn't fricking "software" so much as it is a language for querying databases.
You are slow aren't you.
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That's like saying OMG C++ was on the machines!
No it's like saying machines are certified with strict guidelines. Nothing can be on them that is not allowed and this is not allowed!
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to LSU316
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.I thought we were talking specifically about the MS SQL Sever database engine.
Guess we won't know since OP was too fricking lazy to post a link
I'm guessing it goes back to gateway pundit or some other dumb arse hack site though
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to LSUconvert
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Microsoft SQL is illegal now
On those machines, yes, it is. What part of that don't you understand?
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:50 pm to 10MTNTiger
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Microsoft SQL Server is a relational database management system developed by Microsoft. As a database server, it is a software product with the primary function of storing and retrieving data as requested by other software applications—which may run either on the same computer or on another computer across a network.
Why would a database management system be present and utilized on a machine that is specifically not supposed to be connected to the internet...Powerman?
... could this be the reason for all of the Bill Gates divorce stuff ?...
something - something --- something --- hiding & protecting assets --- something or other ...
something like that
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:51 pm to Powerman
Electric Steel man at it again.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:51 pm to Powerman
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Yeah it does matter. Because SQL isn't fricking "software" so much as it is a language for querying databases.
That's like saying OMG C++ was on the machines!
No. You are wrong.
The management tool provides access to a SQL Server that can exist anywhere that network access exists.
It's a specific software that provides an interface to directly access and modify data both via sql script and/or simply via the provided GUI.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to Powerman
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It's a language, not a software.
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Microsoft SQL Server is a relational database management system developed by Microsoft. As a database server, it is a software product with the primary function of storing and retrieving data as requested by other software applications
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to GodnCountry
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Nothing can be on them that is not allowed and this is not allowed!
I mean so lets say best case scenario for this argument we are talking about the actual software MS SQL Server....I'd be shocked if it was "not allowed"...it is literally used by millions of software packages the World over. It can be incredibly secure if you have the right DBA, security administrators, and developers working with it. On the other hand if you have idiots working with it it can frick you over in many ways.
If MS SQL Server is not allowed exactly what is allowed for them to store the data....In today's world I can guarantee you whatever it is fundamentally at the core basically operates at least similarly to MS SQL Server.
ETA Worst case scenario you are talking about language SQL and I've never heard of that banned from a machine....it would severely limit the software you use to run the machine including the OS....It couldn't be any version of Windows or Apple's OS or Linux.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to AlxTgr
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Microsoft SQL Server
That's not what was claimed in the OP
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:52 pm to Powerman
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It's a language, not a software.
SQL is a language.
SQL Management Studio is a software, and this is what has been referenced.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:53 pm to Powerman
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not a software.
It is licensed software - I'm in my 6th decade of IT and have procured SQL and managed organizations that used it. FACT.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:53 pm to fatboydave
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They also found an unauthorized copy of Dig Dug!
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:53 pm to moneyg
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The management tool provides access to a SQL Server that can exist anywhere that network access exists.
It does not "provide access" at all. That part is not correct.
If access exists to a remote (or local) database, it can be used to connect to and interface with that database server. But you could also do that with any programming language.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:54 pm to Powerman
I got you....I was assuming he kind of just left it out incidentally....granted I could be wrong.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:54 pm to Powerman
quote:Yes.
Do you even know what SQL is?
What I don't know is WTF the ""
"" is about. 
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:54 pm to Jjdoc
Illegal software is just part and parcel of living in a big city.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:55 pm to jonnyanony
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I haven't seen that demonstrated. Again, if those machines were "dialing out" to update a remote database, they wouldn't be using SQL Server, they'd be using a MS SQL library in the language of their choice.
That's one way of doing it.
It may not have been as sophisticated as you are describing though. This software allows one of these machines to execute the updates via this software.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:55 pm to LSU316
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Microsoft SQL
To me immediately implied the software, because "Microsoft SQL" is only a thing in the sense that every database software strays from the SQL standard in generally small ways.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:56 pm to moneyg
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This software allows one of these machines to execute the updates via this software.
Generally no it doesn't. Or more accurately, it could be used to do that, but it would be a clunky orchestration pumping scripts into unnecessary software when you could write a 30 line method in almost any programming language, compile it into a binary called "dominion_security.exe" and have it run as a scheduled task.
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:57 pm to jonnyanony
This is correct....typically access to a server is cordoned off from MS SQL Server....that way you have SOD from DBA to Security Admin...and you can have the same DB structure on many different servers but only give certain people access to the same "thing" basically on different machines.....this is how quarantined testing environments are setup in a basic sense...I know there are a lot of things about the security and VMs that I don't know as a developer, but that's basically how it has been explained to me.
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