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re: Microsoft SQL Database Management Program found on Dominion... Non-Authorized software

Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by DaTruth7
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:57 pm to
SQL makes it super easy to manipulate data if you know what you are doing.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:57 pm to
If you google "Microsoft SQL Dominion" you find that information provided to the TX SOS and the CO SOS list MS SQL as a standard component.

CO SOS

TX SOS

Also listed as a component in the US Election Assistance Commission's Certificate of Conformance: LINK

So what's going on?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:58 pm to
Yea that's where I was because in my realm when talking about the language I just hear SQL or T-SQL...never MS SQL
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:58 pm to
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If you google "Microsoft SQL Dominion" you find that information provided to the TX SOS and the CO SOS list MS SQL as a standard component.

CO SOS

TX SOS

Also listed as a component in the US Election Assistance Commission's Certificate of Conformance: LINK

So what's going on?

Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Yeah it does matter. Because SQL isn't fricking "software" so much as it is a language for querying databases.
But I can modify said data either remote or locally so if its not supposed to run on SQL server side then why is that?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

SQL makes it super easy to manipulate data if you know what you are doing.


That's why you have to have DBAs that adhere to strict DB security standards....even after the network/server security is evaluated.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:00 pm to
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quote:
Microsoft SQL is illegal now

On those machines, yes, it is. What part of that don't you understand?


Can anyone link to something supporting the comment that MS SQL is illegal on these voting machines?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:03 pm to
If they do either you got bad docs or they did...what you linked looks pretty official....it checks all the boxes so to speak.

Although I'd hesitate to contract with the folks if they tell me I have to add a damn 2008 R2 SQL Server to my farm of 2016+ servers....My first thought would be "Hell no" and it would be hard to talk me down.
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:04 pm to
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SQL makes it super easy to manipulate data if you know what you are doing.


It does
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:04 pm to
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If you google "Microsoft SQL Dominion" you find that information provided to the TX SOS and the CO SOS list MS SQL as a standard component.

CO SOS

TX SOS

Also listed as a component in the US Election Assistance Commission's Certificate of Conformance: LINK

So what's going on?




Maybe read what you link to? You ran a search and saw links and failed to read.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:05 pm to
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It does


This always fascinates me....I'm not sure how people get "write" access at all on DBs if they "don't know what they are doing".
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:05 pm to
LOL at you again. He failed to read what he linked.


Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:05 pm to
So did they find any actual code? Look in the SQL logs? DB instances? Connection strings? authentication information?

Or was it just the software?
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:06 pm to
My guess is the SQL was linked via an online network not just running SQL on the machines.
But wait these machines are servers? they run SQL but are not online hmmmm that is fishy for sure.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Maybe read what you link to? You ran a search and saw links and failed to read.


I'm not a programmer or an IT person, so please feel free to enlighten me as to what I'm missing in the links I provided.
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:08 pm to
Yes. Look up the election commission certified program. It's not.

You linked to it yourself.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:09 pm to
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My guess is the SQL was linked via an online network not just running SQL on the machines.
But wait these machines are servers? they run SQL but are not online hmmmm that is fishy for sure.


Right so that was my question if it was a "connected" server then that is an issue because I think it was well published that they couldn't be on a network.

I think bringing up some arbitrary point that "MS SQL isn't allowed on them" is what got this thread talking because frankly it seems ridiculous.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:10 pm to
Did they find any porn?
Posted by GodnCountry
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:10 pm to
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so please feel free to enlighten me as to what I'm missing in the links I provided.


The software program is not listed thus has no certification to be on any machine that votes are cast on.

LINK


Do you see it listed?


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:10 pm to
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It does not "provide access" at all. That part is not correct.



You are playing semantics.

With Management studio an authorized user can connect to a remote SQL Server and access a remote database. Network connectivity obviously needs to exist.

I didn't say it was the only way to do it. It may be the easiest and best way though. The existence of a separate program that connects to a remote server is pretty obvious proof of something nefarious going on.

SSMS won't have compiled code. The scripts don't have to be stored at all and never have to be resident on the hard drive.

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