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re: Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide during COVID (updated: back)

Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:27 am to
Wearing a mask should be mandatory for the good of humanity?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26492 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:30 am to
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Flu Has Disappeared Worldwide

Follow the science--masks work.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75074 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:31 am to
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Follow the science--masks work.



So the vaxx is worthless? It was the masks this entire time that would destroy it


Wow
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11100 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:36 am to
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Follow the science--masks work.


Real science is full of doubt and reassessment

Political scientism is full of beliefs, positions and followers...
Worshipers in short...
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61826 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:42 am to
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There is also an internal symbol of submission...


I've been paying attention when I've been out and about this calendar year - there are still people who appear to be wide-eyed and visibly panicked as they're out shopping. It's as if COVID is a pack of velociraptors that's loose at their local Walmart.

Anecdotally, those people who look to be legit afraid for their lives appear disproportionately to be black.

To be sure, the most insufferable crowd is the white liberal housewives who have inexplicably taken on the burden of guilt and shame for all minorities, but still... The Dems/CCP really fricked over Black America double-time on this one.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 8:47 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:46 am to
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Follow the science--masks work.


The letting thousands of convicted criminals loose into society seems like a bad move when they could've been given a couple of masks and stayed in jail, huh?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
41351 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:48 am to
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I've been paying attention when I've been out an about this calendar year - there are still people who appear to be wide-eyed and visibly panicked as they're out shopping. It's as if COVID is a pack of velociraptors that's loose at their local Walmart.

Anecdotally, those people who look to be legit afraid for their lives appear disproportionately to be black.


Outside of Birmingham, AL where the woke white folks still wear their masks, the majority of people I still wearing masks are black. I was recently in Eufaula, AL for a week and it was just the black folks wearing masks. Strange.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:51 am to
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Do viral strains compete against each other?


No

The reasons why there is no flu this year are as follows:

1. A lot more people got vaccinated against the flu this year compared to previous years. I do not know about other countries and I do not always trust their data so I am going to stick to the USA. ~60% of the population in the USA got vaccinated against the flu during the 2020-2021 flu season as compared to ~50% in the 2019-2020 flu season. So the USA was able to achieve herd immunity against the flu (~55% of the population being vaccinated) for the first time in over a decade.

2. The flu spreads like crazy through schools and then to parents especially in urban areas where a larger percentage of the population uses mass transit. Virtual school and working from home and social distancing helped.

I do not know if the negative effects from kids missing a year of in person school as well as the economic effects of social distancing and lockdowns are worth eradicating the flu. However we can achieve the same effects if >60% of the USA population gets the flu shot every year.

Side bar: The reason why the flu shot has not worked as well as it should in years past is because not enough people got it. This just goes to show that if you anti-flu shot retards actually get the shot then it will work and we do not have to worry about the flu. Same thing applies to the covid vaccine. Get the shot and the virus goes away.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3070 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:51 am to
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Are you saying the masks are why we are seeing virtually no flu?


That's the Democratic talking point or "What I heard on CNN so it must be true".

The reality is if we were throwing the kind of money at Type A and Type B flu tests, that we do with the Chinese Flu test, you would see the numbers a whole lot different.


Again, I've heard first hand account of someone who presented themselves to their Dr. office with flu-like symptoms and were given a regular flu test. It tested positive for Type-B Flu. They then were tested for the Chinese Flu and BAM, also tested positive.

The synopsis: There are way too many gullible frickers that believe everything the government tells them.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21396 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 8:56 am to
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I will respectfully disagree. It is a visual representation of who's eyeball-deep in the Kool-Aid.

Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14928 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:32 am to
I'm actually more than a little surprised that I haven't seen people mention another possible reason.

There appears to be an interference, possibly caused by interferon, is a real entity. Yes, kids who are involved in the transmission remained home this year. And masks also helped.

Some have mentioned misdiagnosis could also play a role. Why do I mention this?

People say that false positives and lack of testing for flu was a reason. Sure. But why?

Money.

People got paid more testing an intensively ill covid patient than the same patient given an influenza diagnosis. Additionally now families will receive thousands to cover funeral expenses for covid deaths and nothing for influenza deaths.

This means covid diagnosis benefit the system as well as the family. So lots of presumptive covid diagnosis.

Follow the money.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15105 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:38 am to
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Follow the science--masks work.





Science? LOL guy, it's become a frickin religion for you guys and it's creepy
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61826 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:40 am to
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Outside of Birmingham, AL where the woke white folks still wear their masks, the majority of people I still wearing masks are black. I was recently in Eufaula, AL for a week and it was just the black folks wearing masks. Strange.


And yet, you're seeing a coordinated campaign in PSAs to get the Black & Hispanic communities to jump in with both feet and make sure to get the vaccine.

That leads me to believe that while they're visibly terrified of the "threat" of the virus, the need for PSAs urging folks who aren't white to get vaccinated means they're not rolling up their sleeves in numbers that the powers that be would prefer. After all, they have Spike Lee, Morgan Freeman, notable Haitian earthquake relief patron John Legend and others singing from the rafters about This Is Our Shot.

Now, is that from a collective distrust from Black America of the government, common sense, or some other reason?
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 9:42 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33744 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:42 am to
I'm confused as to what conspiracy theory is driving threads like these. What exactly are we alleging that has happened nefariously with regard to the flu this year?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:45 am to
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A lot more people got vaccinated against the flu this year compared to previous years.


Lol

quote:

The flu spreads like crazy through schools and then to parents especially in urban areas where a larger percentage of the population uses mass transit. Virtual school and working from home and social distancing helped.


Areas where school has been in person has seen the same lower flu rates.

quote:

However we can achieve the same effects if >60% of the USA population gets the flu shot every year.


So a 12-15% increase in flu shot utilization leads to a 90% reduction in the flu? I’m interested in your newsletter.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61826 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:48 am to
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What exactly are we alleging that has happened nefariously with regard to the flu this year?


Let's begin by saying that coronavirus testing did not test for COVID-19, specifically. It was for the broader family of viruses.

Influenza clearly was not eradicated in 2019, so if we accept that flu cases did not magically go away, and yet COVID "cases" were for whatever reason through the roof, then it stands to reason that many of the instances of COVID that were reported as grounds for the "pandemic" were actually seasonal influenza cases that tripped the broader coronavirus testing.

ETA - Additionally, the CDC's own data said that only 4% of deaths attributed to COVID-19 were purely caused by COVID and no other concurrent illness/condition.

Cherry on top is the "COVID ATM" point raised by another poster.

Editorial - Hottest of hot takes summed up by derisive use of "conspiracy theory", indicating the poster is above the fray for being brilliant enough to see through the "nonsense"

quote:

I'm confused as to what conspiracy theory is driving threads like these.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 9:52 am
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11100 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I'm actually more than a little surprised that I haven't seen people mention another possible reason.

There appears to be an interference, possibly caused by interferon, is a real entity. Yes, kids who are involved in the transmission remained home this year. And masks also helped.

Some have mentioned misdiagnosis could also play a role. Why do I mention this?

People say that false positives and lack of testing for flu was a reason. Sure. But why?

Money.

People got paid more testing an intensively ill covid patient than the same patient given an influenza diagnosis. Additionally now families will receive thousands to cover funeral expenses for covid deaths and nothing for influenza deaths.

This means covid diagnosis benefit the system as well as the family. So lots of presumptive covid diagnosis.

Follow the money.


From the 1st page:


quote:

TPA speculation:

Many covid case were PCR false positives (inflating case numbers). Many covid cases could have been influenza if testing was not performed for influencza or priority was given to a a PCR test at an elevated cycle threshold calling covid.

Clinically, the patient with influenza would look very similar to a person with a mild covid case

The person interpretting the test would have a financial incentive (at an institutional level/reimbursement) to label the case covid over influenza...

The "ethical" way of skirting this would be setting up freestanding sites only searching only for covid...

Seek and you shall find...

To be clear: the virus and impact on some is not a hoax. The machinations surrounding it and policies are exploits

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:58 am to
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then it stands to reason that many of the instances of COVID that were reported as grounds for the "pandemic" were actually seasonal influenza cases that tripped the broader coronavirus testing.

are they even in the same class of viruses to "hit" on the same types of testing?

why did we see the cases spike in non-winter months? the waves did not reflect the same time periods as the flu, especially the first wave that raged in the spring and early summer
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 9:59 am to
No flu circulating for the first time in the history of man! Thank you masks!!!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24179 posts
Posted on 5/3/21 at 10:00 am to
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1. A lot more people got vaccinated against the flu this year compared to previous years. I do not know about other countries and I do not always trust their data so I am going to stick to the USA. ~60% of the population in the USA got vaccinated against the flu during the 2020-2021 flu season as compared to ~50% in the 2019-2020 flu season. So the USA was able to achieve herd immunity against the flu (~55% of the population being vaccinated) for the first time in over a decade.

2. The flu spreads like crazy through schools and then to parents especially in urban areas where a larger percentage of the population uses mass transit. Virtual school and working from home and social distancing helped.


Except that it has disappeared from virtually the entire planet, all while countries have disparate mitigation measures. The flu shot and school shutdowns in the USA does not explain that.

Unfitted masks (cloth or surgical) have never stopped the flu until 2020...convenient, eh? Too bad SARS 2.0 is smart enough to get around masks.


You’re being too simplistic in your sidebar about the effectiveness of the flu vaccine. Biggest factor is that the type/strain in the vaccine is a guess as to which type/strain will be circulating that season. Guess wrong and the vaccine doesn’t do a great job. Then you get into age/health of people. Correctly following vaccination protocols (temperature, dosage, etc.), as the real world is not a lab study when it comes to a vaccine.
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