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Are TOPS going to too many wealthy families (=$70k a year)? C Denise Marcelle thinks is
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:09 pm
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Who qualifies for TOPS scholarships sparked new complaints Wednesday when a key state House committee learned that 59% of recipients live in families with incomes of $70,000 per year and more.
"We have a lot of work to do," Commissioner of Higher Education Kim Hunter Reed told the House Appropriations Committee.
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The Taylor Opportunity Program for Students, known as TOPS, is a merit-based college scholarship program that carries modest academic requirements.
Those modest requirements are a 2.5 GPA and at least a 20 on the ACT
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Two Baton Rouge lawmakers on the committee renewed complaints that surfaced periodically that the aid is top-heavy with students living in families with comfortable incomes. Figures supplied to the committee show that 22% of students who receive TOPS live in households with incomes of $150,000 per year and more.
Conversely, those in families with incomes of $50,000 per year and less account for 41% of the total. The median household income in Louisiana is $49,469, according to House figures.
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Rep. C. Denise Marcelle, D-Baton Rouge, said while TOPS was initially launched to aid students who could not afford college that is not happening. "How did we get from the intent to what we have here, that it is just the opposite?" Marcelle asked.
"We have to change the trajectory at some point," she added.
Rep. Barbara Carpenter, D-Baton Rouge, raised similar concerns.
"I am deeply troubled by this chart," Carpenter said, referring to the document that show TOPS recipients by income levels.
"We cannot continue to be in the same situation year after year," she said.
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This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:10 pm
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:11 pm to SPEEDY
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merit-based
Racist
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:11 pm to SPEEDY
A program annually on the brink of running of money is about to have its standards lowered and changed to a race based system.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to The Boat
Great, more shite we get to pay for but not participate in.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
I'm ok with doing away with it all together
But don't change the rules all of a sudden when my taxpayer money has funded those that have gotten it over the last two decades now that my kid is nearing college
But don't change the rules all of a sudden when my taxpayer money has funded those that have gotten it over the last two decades now that my kid is nearing college
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
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This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
I'll solve the state budget and this problem all in 1 go.
STOP THE TOPS PROGRAM! Too many people who shouldn't be going to college are using it!
At least, change the program to a 4 year forgivable loan that is forgiven after completion of a degree and 3 year of paying income tax in Louisiana.
STOP THE TOPS PROGRAM! Too many people who shouldn't be going to college are using it!
At least, change the program to a 4 year forgivable loan that is forgiven after completion of a degree and 3 year of paying income tax in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
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Conversely, those in families with incomes of $50,000 per year and less account for 41% of the total.
I think that's a pretty good number to be honest
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
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families with incomes of $70,000 per year
Assuming gross. You can't pay for kid's college with that income.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
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Conversely, those in families with incomes of $50,000 per year and less account for 41% of the total. The median household income in Louisiana is $49,469, according to House figures.
So. Umm. Thats pretty close to being perfectly in line with the population. Nice grandstanding tho dee-nice
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:13 pm to SPEEDY
Yep. Making 70k a year your family of four is living the life of champagne and caviar. Wintering in Aspen and Summering with the Kennedy’s in Cap Cod
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:14 pm to SPEEDY
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$70,000 per year
Income =/= to wealth. That's a common conflation by politicians that want to exclude the middle class from benefits.
What makes her position insane is that she is conflating $70,000 per year income with wealth.
Also...
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merit-based college scholarship
Literally all you have to do to get it is to earn a decent GPA and ACT score and attend a public university or college in Louisiana. Doesn't matter what race you are. Doesn't matter what major you want to go into.
It's a tool to retain average or above average students and discourage them from leaving the state for better opportunity once they turn 18 and graduate high school.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to SPEEDY
Merits based.
Grades are racist
I do think that TOPS standards should be changed but I think the standards should be raised. Far too many people taking money and then dropping out because that 20 on the ACT and that 2.5 gpa doesn't actually mean they are smart enough to be successful.
Grades are racist
I do think that TOPS standards should be changed but I think the standards should be raised. Far too many people taking money and then dropping out because that 20 on the ACT and that 2.5 gpa doesn't actually mean they are smart enough to be successful.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to SPEEDY
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C Denise Marcelle thinks
No she doesn't.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to SPEEDY
We need more programs to study TOPS
An action committee will review all findings
Lunch will be served.
An action committee will review all findings
Lunch will be served.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to CoachChappy
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At least, change the program to a 4 year forgivable loan that is forgiven after completion of a degree and 3 year of paying income tax in Louisiana.
I'm good with only making them pay in full if they leave the state for work.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:15 pm to SPEEDY
No one, and I mean absolutely no one gives a damn about that idiot or what she thinks.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:16 pm to SPEEDY
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2.5 GPA and 20 on the ACT
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Merit-Based
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:17 pm to The Eric
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I do think that TOPS standards should be changed but I think the standards should be raised.
THIS
They should immediately move it to a minimum 3.0 GPA and a 23 ACT for baseline benefits, then phase in a higher standard of 3.3 and 26 ACT. Highest tier award should also cover fees, room and board, and require a minimum 30 ACT.
The current TOPS requirements are actually lower than the minimum admission requirements at LSU. Meaning every in-state student at LSU is getting TOPS if they aren't an athlete. Plus any other scholarships they earned to pay for fees, room and board, etc.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 12:23 pm
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