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“Paid his debt to society”
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:46 pm
So a convict goes to prison/jail for a stretch and then he’s “paid his debt to society”.
But has he really?
The cost of housing, feeding, and caring for an inmate FAR exceeds any trivial work that inmate might do while incarcerated.
In what way has this inmate atoned for his crime by sitting around with other sh!tbags?
I hate the way it’s used as an excuse to let dirtbags roam free.
But has he really?
The cost of housing, feeding, and caring for an inmate FAR exceeds any trivial work that inmate might do while incarcerated.
In what way has this inmate atoned for his crime by sitting around with other sh!tbags?
I hate the way it’s used as an excuse to let dirtbags roam free.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:50 pm
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Back when they made license plates in jail, maybe?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:47 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I mean, if they're freed, they should be 100 percent freed. They should regain their 2nd amendment and voting rights.
If they're too dangerous to have those rights, they should be kept in prison.
If they're too dangerous to have those rights, they should be kept in prison.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:49 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Do you have an alternate proposal?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:49 pm to Eli Goldfinger
If he has satisfied the terms of his sentence, yes he has. You want every charge to carry a life sentence?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:50 pm to Obtuse1
quote:
Do you have an alternate proposal?
True forced labor.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:50 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:
I mean, if they're freed, they should be 100 percent freed. They should regain their 2nd amendment and voting rights.
If they're too dangerous to have those rights, they should be kept in prison.
I agree with this.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:50 pm to soccerfüt
quote:"Where the hell am I gon' get a job makin' license plates???"
Back when they made license plates in jail, maybe?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:51 pm to atxfan
quote:
If he has satisfied the terms of his sentence, yes he has. You want every charge to carry a life sentence?
No.
But I do want a true atonement for crimes.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:51 pm to Eli Goldfinger
How would you go about reforming the incarceration element of the Criminal Justice system?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:52 pm to Breauxsif
Labor camps
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:53 pm to Eli Goldfinger
We incarcerate WAY too many people. Just because someone is in prison doesn't make them an immoral person, just means they broke one of the kings laws and got caught. Worst, could have just been someone who wasn't braking the law but the prosecutor threatened them with some ridiculous scenario where the poor sap couldn't possibly imagine winning so they plead to small time to avoid big time when they may have never done anything wrong. Sure, the murderers, rapist, molesters need prison. Johnny with some drugs does not, Susie whoring around does not, etc. etc. We MAKE too many criminals in this country.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:55 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:I get your intention for "dirtbags" and "convicts" to more specifically refer to violent felons, and how easy it must be to mentally blur the line between people of ambiguous morals making a regrettable mistake and those not capable of rehabilitation. How lost would we be as a society if no one could learn, grow, and serve penance for our sins?
So a convict goes to prison/jail for a stretch and then he’s “paid his debt to society”.
But has he really?
The cost of housing, feeding, and caring for an inmate FAR exceeds any trivial work that inmate might do while incarcerated.
I hate the way it’s used as an excuse to let dirtbags roam free.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:56 pm to UndercoverBryologist
quote:
If they're too dangerous to have those rights, they should be kept in prison.
Well to be honest, dumbasses are too dangerous to be allowed to vote imo.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:56 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I tend to agree. They should have to make restitution to the victims
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:01 pm to Harry Caray
quote:
How lost would we be as a society if no one could learn, grow, and serve penance for our sins?
But is sitting in jail a true penance/atonement?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:02 pm to jamboybarry
quote:
I tend to agree. They should have to make restitution to the victims
Would be a very good start.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:04 pm to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
I tend to agree. They should have to make restitution to the victims
Would be a very good start.
To voluntarily pay their "victims" would be to admit responsibility to the crime, which would be self-incrimination. Not all people convicted are guilty. So you would be forcing some innocent people to admit to the crime, self-incriminate themselves, as a condition for release?
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:04 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I'd like to hold my head up and be proud of who I am,
But they won't let my secret go untold.
I paid the debt I owed them, but they're still not satisfied,
Now I'm a branded man out in the cold,
When they let me out of prison, I held my head up high,
Determined I would rise above the shame.
But no matter where I travel, the black mark follows me,
I'm branded with a number on my name.
If I live to be a hundred, guess I'll never clear my name,
'Cause everybody knows I've been in jail.
No matter where I'm living,
I've got to tell them where I've been,
Or they'll send me back to prison if I fail.
Now I'm a branded man out in the cold.
— Merle
But they won't let my secret go untold.
I paid the debt I owed them, but they're still not satisfied,
Now I'm a branded man out in the cold,
When they let me out of prison, I held my head up high,
Determined I would rise above the shame.
But no matter where I travel, the black mark follows me,
I'm branded with a number on my name.
If I live to be a hundred, guess I'll never clear my name,
'Cause everybody knows I've been in jail.
No matter where I'm living,
I've got to tell them where I've been,
Or they'll send me back to prison if I fail.
Now I'm a branded man out in the cold.
— Merle
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:06 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Prison isn't about the prisoners. It's about profit.
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