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Question about Lindell's data

Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:31 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:31 pm
Just watched the video he dropped with the psychologist. Very convincing stuff. But before I spread for and wide, need to prepare for the debunkers.

Algorithms and this level of advanced data analysis is not easy for the average American to digest. Most people aren't and won't get it, how does the data that was presented show up as an actual receipt of proof. Just watching the video, how do I know where those graphs and data come from and can prove that information is real?
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:49 pm to
I hear the word algorithm, and now I always think of Dr. Zola, from Captain America.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 10:55 pm to
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how do I know where those graphs and data come from and can prove that information is real?


You can’t. Once upon a time you could rely on the media to cover a story like this. They had a spin, but they wouldn’t cover up something this large.

Now we know that they would, so there’s no way to know what’s true and what isn’t unless you have objective source documents. And I think we’re nearing a time when people will ignore those and call them deep fakes or “debunked”.
Posted by FatBoy62
Arkansas
Member since May 2018
763 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:03 pm to
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I hear the word algorithm, and now I always think of Dr. Zola, from Captain America.



I hear the word algorithm and think why the heck does an algorithm even exist for any reason on a voting machine.
Posted by Southcoast
Texas
Member since Jan 2004
687 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 11:10 pm to
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I hear the word algorithm and think why the heck does an algorithm even exist for any reason on a voting machine.

true, and I seem to remember 1/2 vote shares being shifted around. How do you get a 1/2 vote (unless its an algorithm math issue resulting from 115% or the total votes electronically going Biden and 85% of total votes electronically counting for Trump)...
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5662 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 12:16 am to
Well for starters, I'd like to know if his data is factual because if it is then it is a complete impossibility that this occurred naturally. Basically he claims that in every county in Ohio the percentage of people that were registered to vote vs those that actually showed up to cast a ballot were identical in every county in the state. Furthermore, he claims that the proportion of voting age residents to registered voters to ballots received in Ohio was exactly the same in every single county. If that is true then it is impossible to ignore that kind of irregularity.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26323 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 1:19 am to
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If that is true then it is impossible to ignore that kind of irregularity.


They seem to be ignoring it just fine.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5349 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 2:11 am to
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Just watching the video, how do I know where those graphs and data come from and can prove that information is real?

Watch the video again. He is a physicist, not a psychologist. In the video, he explains where he got the data - most states have it available, publicly. It's not that difficult to do - get the data, follow the information in the video, and use Excel.

Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19325 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:06 am to
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I hear the word algorithm and think why the heck does an algorithm even exist for any reason on a voting machine.




Algorithms are just instructions for the computers to follow. Your laptop or tablet use them in everything they do. Its a fancy word that isn't that fancy.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:18 am to
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Algorithms are just instructions for the computers to follow. Your laptop or tablet use them in everything they do. Its a fancy word that isn't that fancy.



I like how it was described in the video as like "recipe". Algorithms are simply sets of instructions for the computer to follow.
This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 5:19 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14975 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:51 am to
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Well for starters, I'd like to know if his data is factual because if it is then it is a complete impossibility that this occurred naturally. Basically he claims that in every county in Ohio the percentage of people that were registered to vote vs those that actually showed up to cast a ballot were identical in every county in the state.


I just downloaded the participation data from the Ohio Sec of state. And there is no truth to the statement that "every county in Ohio the percentage of people that were registered to vote vs those that actually showed up to cast a ballot were identical in every county."

Seriously just go here and check for yourself: LINK

Now I did not watch the original video so I am going off your representation of the original claim.

But why would they manipulate the returns in a state that Trump won by 8% points?

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27573 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:54 am to
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Just watched the video he dropped with the psychologist. Very convincing stuff.


It's only successful if it makes you want to purchase a crappy overpriced pillow.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12882 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:01 am to
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But why would they manipulate the returns in a state that Trump won by 8% points?


The most effective liars are those who obscure the truth 100% of the time, even when it is unnecessary.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62092 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:05 am to
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But why would they manipulate the returns in a state that Trump won by 8% points?



There's a lot of plausible explanations for this.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48111 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:21 am to
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why the heck does an algorithm even exist for any reason on a voting machine.


Even more to the point - anything a machine does other than add and format results should not exist in any 'voting machine'

IF we're going to have to wait a couple of weeks to find out the eventual output from all the 'voting machines' anyway, I'm all in favor of dumping them all and going back to the days of manually counting actual paper ballots with a verified signature on them and tallying up the results with manual Frieden adding machines ala 1950. Then have an independent operation going to duplicate the result with a resolution count for any disparity greater than x %. (x tbd approx ~ .1 %)
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56999 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 9:24 am to
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Just watched the video he dropped with the psychologist.


Can you post the video?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:08 am to
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There's a lot of plausible explanations for this.


What’s the plausible explanation for the fact that the actual data from Ohio does not support what the physicist in the video is claiming? This data is available for anyone to look at, and is pretty simple to understand, but I guess people don’t want to do their own research if the result will not support what they want to believe.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30720 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:28 am to
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I hear the word algorithm

...an immediately a former Vice President and global warming guru's appearance on Dancing With The Stars comes into view.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:30 am to
Algorithm n blues
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 10:32 am to
No need to watch Lindell's video.

Algorithms and charts and fancy statistics do not prove anything.

That said, they point to a problem! Statistical evidence is not legal evidence at all, but it points investigators in the right direction. So, Mike Lindell's not presented any provable facts, but he has presented the same type evidence that showed that Trump actually won.

How many court cases were tossed because Democrats invented voters out of whole cloth who lived in parking garages or vacant lots? Plenty. But the judge ruled that because anecdotal evidence was not sufficient to prove fraud, Democrat cheating bastards have the advantage right now.
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