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Munich/Bavaria Advice
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 3/12/21 at 5:57 pm
Booked tickets to Munich for 2 weeks in December over Christmas. Assuming travel is normal by then, what should we absolutely not miss?
Already doing the breweries in Munich and Weihenstephan. Christmas markets will be in full swing. Any smaller cities and towns that we should plan to include? We will have a car. Anything in Munich that you loved besides beer?
TIA
Already doing the breweries in Munich and Weihenstephan. Christmas markets will be in full swing. Any smaller cities and towns that we should plan to include? We will have a car. Anything in Munich that you loved besides beer?
TIA
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:28 pm to Tigerlaff
Munich has multiple Christmas markets in different areas, each with slightly different stuff (food, crafts, etc). It can be fun to check out the different versions. There is usually a skating rink set up in Karlsplatz, too.
The Viktualienmarkt (outdoor food market) is interesting, and a good place to buy provisions if your lodgings have a kitchen. So is the acclaimed deli/specialty food shop Dallmayr, worth a visit to see the fine old original store. LINK
Schweinhaxe, roasted pork knuckle, is a must: LINK
Be sure to visit the Asamkirche for sheer decorative overwhelm, and the Nazi documentation center built on the former party HQ.
ETA, if you’re into shopping, the made in Germany stuff sold at Manufactum is all of a certain solid, high quality unfussyness that I see as quintessentially German: LINK
The Viktualienmarkt (outdoor food market) is interesting, and a good place to buy provisions if your lodgings have a kitchen. So is the acclaimed deli/specialty food shop Dallmayr, worth a visit to see the fine old original store. LINK
Schweinhaxe, roasted pork knuckle, is a must: LINK
Be sure to visit the Asamkirche for sheer decorative overwhelm, and the Nazi documentation center built on the former party HQ.
ETA, if you’re into shopping, the made in Germany stuff sold at Manufactum is all of a certain solid, high quality unfussyness that I see as quintessentially German: LINK
This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 3/12/21 at 7:55 pm to Tigerlaff
In Munich - The Marianplatz is the main square and the Hofbrauhaus in right there. Touristy but a must see.
We saw the two Royal Palaces, the Residenz where the crown jewels are kept and Nymphenburg Palace.
We toured the Dacchau Concentration Camp right outside of town.
With the car you can drive up the Romantic Road to Rothenburg and the other medieval villages. There was a thread on this a couple of weeks ago.
Two weeks is a long time. With that much time I would try to get to Salzburg and Vienna. Salzburg would be a great day trip. If you can spend a few days in Vienna I highly recommend you do so. That was my favorite city around there. The drive from Salzburg to Vienna is beautiful. Exit the Highway by the Melk Abbey and drive the rest of the way along the road that runs next to the Danube through the Vaccau Valley wine country.
We saw the two Royal Palaces, the Residenz where the crown jewels are kept and Nymphenburg Palace.
We toured the Dacchau Concentration Camp right outside of town.
With the car you can drive up the Romantic Road to Rothenburg and the other medieval villages. There was a thread on this a couple of weeks ago.
Two weeks is a long time. With that much time I would try to get to Salzburg and Vienna. Salzburg would be a great day trip. If you can spend a few days in Vienna I highly recommend you do so. That was my favorite city around there. The drive from Salzburg to Vienna is beautiful. Exit the Highway by the Melk Abbey and drive the rest of the way along the road that runs next to the Danube through the Vaccau Valley wine country.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 8:51 pm to geauxpurple
This is excellent info. We will definitely be going to Salzburg. Thanks!
Posted on 3/12/21 at 8:56 pm to Tigerlaff
It’s easy to get to Hitlers Eagles Nest and the town of Berchtesgaden. Good fun.
Regensburg is a great small town. Used to be an Imperial Capital.
Salzburg is another good one and close by. It can be done as a day trip.
Regensburg is a great small town. Used to be an Imperial Capital.
Salzburg is another good one and close by. It can be done as a day trip.
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:16 pm to Tigerlaff
take the short trip to Neuschwanstein Castle (AKA The Disney Castle)
Posted on 3/12/21 at 9:16 pm to Tigerlaff
I’ll be there the first week of December.
Posted on 3/13/21 at 1:09 pm to LoneStarRanger
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It’s easy to get to Hitlers Eagles Nest
Not in December. Busses stop running in October.
Posted on 3/13/21 at 10:54 pm to Tigerlaff
I highly recommend:
I also recommend Salzburg. The high speed train can get you there in 90 minutes give of take.
In Munich, stay out of the bike paths. They are everywhere and you will get your arse run over (the bikes have bells so listen up for them).
As far as side trips with the car, consider these:
Cranky Krumlov, Czech Republic 3 hours
Hallstatt, Austria - 2 hours
Innsbruck, Austria - 2 hours
Lucerne, Switzerland - 3.5 hours
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take the short trip to Neuschwanstein Castle (AKA The Disney Castle)
I also recommend Salzburg. The high speed train can get you there in 90 minutes give of take.
In Munich, stay out of the bike paths. They are everywhere and you will get your arse run over (the bikes have bells so listen up for them).
As far as side trips with the car, consider these:
Cranky Krumlov, Czech Republic 3 hours
Hallstatt, Austria - 2 hours
Innsbruck, Austria - 2 hours
Lucerne, Switzerland - 3.5 hours
Posted on 3/14/21 at 5:41 am to Tigerlaff
I hope this stuff passes by then & you're able to make it over. Most stuff mentioned is pretty good, just going to throw out a couple of things I've not seen yet.
Werfen is south of Salzburg. The area has its own castle, salt mines, sledding, cross country skiing, cable cars. The ice cave will be closed. LINK
Yes, Eagle's Nest will be closed, but Berchtesgaden is an original German town that could kill a day or two. LINK
From Munich, Nuremberg is about 90 mins north & Ulm about an hour west. The BMW Museum is in Munich for cars w/ Porsche & Mercedes museums about two hrs west in Stuttgart.
Werfen is south of Salzburg. The area has its own castle, salt mines, sledding, cross country skiing, cable cars. The ice cave will be closed. LINK
Yes, Eagle's Nest will be closed, but Berchtesgaden is an original German town that could kill a day or two. LINK
From Munich, Nuremberg is about 90 mins north & Ulm about an hour west. The BMW Museum is in Munich for cars w/ Porsche & Mercedes museums about two hrs west in Stuttgart.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 6:55 am to Kraut Dawg
Where are you, if you don't mind my asking? We might be neighbors. I'm about 40 miles SW of Munich and come in every day for work.
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 6:59 am
Posted on 3/14/21 at 10:23 am to Tigerlaff
Salzburg: very compact, quaint town. The Christmas market at the fortress overlooking the town is a nice place to grab a chilly outdoor lunch after touring the fortress—I was there one afternoon just as snow started to fall, so it was all very magical while eating a gilded nuremberger sausage on a bun with mustard.
Salzburg can feel a bit stuffy, as it’s a classical music performance Mecca. The famed hotel Sacher has a location right on the river, so if you want to try the OG Sacher torte, the coffee shop has a whole bunch of incredible desserts in the great Austrian cake/pastry tradition. And the konditorei (sweets shops) around town with all of the Mozartkugel variations are fun to try: it’s a local specialty chocolate made with pistachio/marzipan. The mass market version pales in comparison to some of the handcrafted ones, esp those from Furst, which also has a cafe.
Salzburg has a krampus parade, and still has some of the more weird/slightly pagan/alpine Christmas traditions, so look for the performances scheduled during the Christmas markets.
My #1 Salzburg tip: find the odd little Bosna sausage stand hidden in a shopping passageway for a grilled sausage sandwich with spicy seasoning. It’s like 3 euros, with no seating. I think Balkan Grill Walter is the actual name.
#2 tip is to seek out the Sitftsbackeri St Peter: a water powered flour mill and bakery in the middle of the o,d part of town, operated by the ancient monastery/religious house, with a wood fired oven. LINK. #3 is, provided that you’re in Salzburg on a Thursday, to see the Schrannemarkt, the weekly food/crafts market. It is separate from the Christmas markets but it is overflowing with delicious things year round.
Damn, now I want a buttered pretzel and a beer.
Salzburg can feel a bit stuffy, as it’s a classical music performance Mecca. The famed hotel Sacher has a location right on the river, so if you want to try the OG Sacher torte, the coffee shop has a whole bunch of incredible desserts in the great Austrian cake/pastry tradition. And the konditorei (sweets shops) around town with all of the Mozartkugel variations are fun to try: it’s a local specialty chocolate made with pistachio/marzipan. The mass market version pales in comparison to some of the handcrafted ones, esp those from Furst, which also has a cafe.
Salzburg has a krampus parade, and still has some of the more weird/slightly pagan/alpine Christmas traditions, so look for the performances scheduled during the Christmas markets.
My #1 Salzburg tip: find the odd little Bosna sausage stand hidden in a shopping passageway for a grilled sausage sandwich with spicy seasoning. It’s like 3 euros, with no seating. I think Balkan Grill Walter is the actual name.
#2 tip is to seek out the Sitftsbackeri St Peter: a water powered flour mill and bakery in the middle of the o,d part of town, operated by the ancient monastery/religious house, with a wood fired oven. LINK. #3 is, provided that you’re in Salzburg on a Thursday, to see the Schrannemarkt, the weekly food/crafts market. It is separate from the Christmas markets but it is overflowing with delicious things year round.
Damn, now I want a buttered pretzel and a beer.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:27 pm to Tigerlaff
If you plan on eating or drinking at the Hofbrauhaus, it might be a good idea to make reservations. We were in Munich in late November 2018 and could not get in at all.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:39 pm to razor55red
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This post was edited on 3/22/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 3/14/21 at 2:10 pm to Kraut Dawg
Cool, let's have a beer sometime. Always happy to meet up with fellow countymen.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 7:49 pm to Tigerlaff
I love Bavaria & nearby Austria.
If you have a significant other who would appreciate it and the time in Salzburg, take a “Sound of Music” tour there.
I did it for Mrs Füt (surprised her with a high end private version) and she thanks me regularly to this day.
I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would and our tour guide showed us other Salzburgery stuff and gave us some inside stuff on other places & things to see.
I got my second vaccine last week, I am so missing travel in Europe.
Prost!
If you have a significant other who would appreciate it and the time in Salzburg, take a “Sound of Music” tour there.
I did it for Mrs Füt (surprised her with a high end private version) and she thanks me regularly to this day.
I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would and our tour guide showed us other Salzburgery stuff and gave us some inside stuff on other places & things to see.
I got my second vaccine last week, I am so missing travel in Europe.
Prost!
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:56 pm to Tigerlaff
Awesome advice already in this thread...I'll chime in with a few more things that worked for us over 3 visits:
--Of the six Munich breweries, try to hit the Augustiner spots (my favorite biergarten anywhere is actually the Augustiner spot in Salzburg)
--riding bikes through the Englischergarten is a nice way to spend an afternoon if it won't be too cold
--Andechs Monastery is another spot worth a short drive, can grab lunch & a beer there too
--We did Dachau and then a train to Freising for the Weihenstephan brewery, both are north of the city
--Rothenburg ob der Tauber is the best preserved Medieval-walled city, and (like lots of towns) their Christmas markets are popular...if you go, stay the night to avoid the crowds early and late
--I'm a bit biased but if fans are allowed in Allianz Arena, catching a Bayern soccer match is fun
Overall, you're doing it right by giving yourself that much time across Bavaria
--Of the six Munich breweries, try to hit the Augustiner spots (my favorite biergarten anywhere is actually the Augustiner spot in Salzburg)
--riding bikes through the Englischergarten is a nice way to spend an afternoon if it won't be too cold
--Andechs Monastery is another spot worth a short drive, can grab lunch & a beer there too
--We did Dachau and then a train to Freising for the Weihenstephan brewery, both are north of the city
--Rothenburg ob der Tauber is the best preserved Medieval-walled city, and (like lots of towns) their Christmas markets are popular...if you go, stay the night to avoid the crowds early and late
--I'm a bit biased but if fans are allowed in Allianz Arena, catching a Bayern soccer match is fun
Overall, you're doing it right by giving yourself that much time across Bavaria
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:55 pm to drockw1
Thanks to all of you for this info. I knew 100% that TD would come through. Excellent and thoughtful advice all around. If anyone else is reading and hasn't posted, I'm still all ears!
Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:55 pm to Tigerlaff
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Anything in Munich that you loved besides beer?
The Deutsches Museum is about the most wonderfully German thing you will ever see.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 10:21 pm
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