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re: Disney with a 2-year-old
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:05 pm to Topisawtiger
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:05 pm to Topisawtiger
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Not potty trained is a definite no,
I would think the opposite. Not potty trained means you don’t have to stop every 30 minutes for a bathroom break. Our kids school has them on a schedule for diaper changes (except immediate for #2), we kept them in the same schedule and just changed diapers 3-4 times a day at the park
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:37 pm to LSUfan4444
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I'm curious to know what families do with two and a half year olds that are too young for Disney for vacations with their kids? Do you just not take them on vacations at all?
I’d think let the grandparents babysit or something and the parents go and do their own thing for another year or two for a vacation
Posted on 3/14/21 at 1:58 pm to Lawyered
Okay, if a family/couple only gets one vacation a year I can buy that. But it's not like if you go to walt disney world with your young child you can't take any other vacation.
Posted on 3/14/21 at 8:12 pm to nicholastiger
Went last week with a 2.5 and 4.5 year old
I don’t hate Disney, and I don’t love Disney, so I feel like I’m a fair person to rate it
Disney was fricking terrible last week. I wouldn’t suggest going until it’s back to normal. No characters for the kids. The lines are long as frick because a ton of shite is closed in the parks. The workers are assholes currently. And no matter what people say wearing a mask for 10 hours outside is hell
I don’t hate Disney, and I don’t love Disney, so I feel like I’m a fair person to rate it
Disney was fricking terrible last week. I wouldn’t suggest going until it’s back to normal. No characters for the kids. The lines are long as frick because a ton of shite is closed in the parks. The workers are assholes currently. And no matter what people say wearing a mask for 10 hours outside is hell
This post was edited on 3/14/21 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:35 am to lsupride87
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The lines are long as frick because a ton of shite is closed in the parks.
This is partly true....the lines aare long right now but it's more due to distancing. Average wait times are lower almost across the board than pre COVID FP+ numbers BUT spring break is here. What you experienced is likely the type of crowds the OP will experience. It's been really hard to judge the expected wit time for an attraction right now because of a few factors. First, the length of the line makes the wait look way worse than what it was. Take Haunted Mansion for example...18 months ago if you got in line for Haunted Mansion by Liberty Tree Tavern you knew you would be waiting 2-3 hours, now, it's more like 35 minutes. Secondly, the posted wait times Disney is putting on their attraction signs and the MDX are grossly inflated, more often than not by 1/3 or 1/2. So if you see a posted wait time of 60 minutes, you can normally expect to wait more like 30-45. If you see a posted time of 40, you can expect to wait more like 20-30. Touring Plans has an app that posts real time wait numbers which are adjusted throughout the day just like Disney adjusts but it takes feedback form users in the park who post the actual times so you can see Posted Wait Times, Actual Wait times then suggestions to either ride something then or wait till later because the wait times should be going down.
Not having FP+ really does a good job of dispersing the crowds throughout the park and while you won't be able to show up at 11am and go do Peter Pan, Mine Train and Space Mountain via FP+, the overall standby times for those rides has dropped dramatically because they arent letting in 8 FP+ guests to 2 standby guests.
OP, I also suggest looking into the Rider Swap/Switch for attractions you and your wife would want to do solo. Basically, it allows one of you to stay with the little one (say during a nap, feeding break, etc) while the other gdoes an attraction then when that person gets off the attraction, the one who originally stayed with the little one can do the same attraction with a greatly reduced wait time (in some instances, no wait time). The link above has more info on what attractions offer it, how to use it, etc.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 8:58 am to LSUfan4444
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I'm curious to know what families do with two and a half year olds that are too young for Disney for vacations with their kids? Do you just not take them on vacations at all?
If you think the number one vacation resort in the world, specializing in family vacations that doesnt charge any ticket fees for kids that age is not appropriate for a two a half year old, what is?
Uh, almost anything I would enjoy without the kids? We like camping/outdoor type stuff so that's what we've dragged our kids to since they were born. If Disney is something that you enjoy as an adult, then more power to you. Take your two year old, have a blast, and come back every year.
But if Disney is a once in a lifetime/decade trip for you, or if you're only doing it because you think the kids want to do it, then I (and many others) think it's better to wait until they at least have a shot at remembering it.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 9:06 am to LSUfan4444
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I'm curious to know what families do with two and a half year olds that are too young for Disney for vacations with their kids? Do you just not take them on vacations at all?
If you think the number one vacation resort in the world, specializing in family vacations that doesnt charge any ticket fees for kids that age is not appropriate for a two a half year old, what is?
my 2 year just wants to run around and play, not stand in long lines and/or stay in a stroller all day
this summer we have 2 vacations planned, one at a lake house (Lake Ouachita) and one at a cabin in the mountains (New Mexico)
both will be pretty chill and not much itinerary
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:01 am to Salmon
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my 2 year just wants to run around and play, not stand in long lines and/or stay in a stroller all day
It doesn't have to be one or the other but are you choosing a remote lake and mountain destination because of personal preferences or because it's more age appropriate for your child?
My point is, Disney doesn't HAVE to be long lines and strollers all day. I'm not one to tell anyone how to maximize the value of their ticket but I'd tend to argue that at that age especially, the key should be quality and not quantity and the best strategy is not to stick around in the parks all day.
I suggest to stick as much as possible to whatever the kids normal daily schedule is in regards to sleep, naps, eating, etc. and play alot of it by ear. If they don't like being in a stroller at all and they don't want to be held and/or the parents don't want to hold them (which would be miserable IMO) then I would tend to agree, Disney at that age probably isn't the best fit but I don't think it's accurate that 2 1/2 is too young to take any kid.
It just depends on the type of kid, what the parents expectations are and how they plan to spend their day(s). For a family with young children that wants quiet, nature, trails, hiking, wants to cook their own meals, etc...no WDW probably isn't going to be your best bet at that age.
But, for a family that wants golf, spa services, ample dining options of close proximity with little/no need for a car, pools and playgrounds with entertainment areas specifically designed for kids of that age, shopping, fishing, horseback riding, bowling, movie theater, archery lessons, golf lessons, etc. WDW can be more than appropriate for kids of that age.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:15 am to LSUfan4444
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are you choosing a remote lake and mountain destination because of personal preferences or because it's more age appropriate for your child?
both?
I just don't think we could maximize our time at Disney with a 2 year old, granted, you seem way more knowledgeable than me, so I'm sure you could
I, personally, would want to wait a few years, especially right now considering when we went with our then 3.5 year old, her favorite thing was meeting all the characters
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 10:19 am
Posted on 3/15/21 at 10:39 am to Salmon
I totally 100% get the value perception from a cost standpoint with what has been taken away (character meet & greets, parades, fireworks, shows, character meals, etc). There definitely isn't as much available now compared to 2019 at roughly the same cost.
Form my own experience and from what I have been able to see from others I've worked with is that kids under 3 are much more likely (on average) to be willing to stay in a stroller for extended periods of time rather than kids who are say 5-8 years old. At that age they do not want to be in a stroller and simply cannot handle the walking. We actually did less in a normal day from when my daughter was 5-8 than we did when she was 1-4 and was willing to sit and sleep in a stroller for most of the day. With a kid who doesnt want to be in a stroller 2, I wouldn't think they would want it anymore at 6 or 7 nd very few kids that age can handle 8-10+ miles of walking so even at that age, the key is to focus on quality, not quantity.
The other key factor with kids under the age of three is, disney does not charge them for a ticket and when dining does fully "re-open" they aren't charged for many of the buffet's and family style meals either.
Form my own experience and from what I have been able to see from others I've worked with is that kids under 3 are much more likely (on average) to be willing to stay in a stroller for extended periods of time rather than kids who are say 5-8 years old. At that age they do not want to be in a stroller and simply cannot handle the walking. We actually did less in a normal day from when my daughter was 5-8 than we did when she was 1-4 and was willing to sit and sleep in a stroller for most of the day. With a kid who doesnt want to be in a stroller 2, I wouldn't think they would want it anymore at 6 or 7 nd very few kids that age can handle 8-10+ miles of walking so even at that age, the key is to focus on quality, not quantity.
The other key factor with kids under the age of three is, disney does not charge them for a ticket and when dining does fully "re-open" they aren't charged for many of the buffet's and family style meals either.
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:15 am to Nix to Twillie
2 is an amazing age to take a kid to Disney. They usually nap in a stroller pretty easily and they can still be in diapers, so it can be easier to not have to constantly take bathroom breaks with them.
But the most important reason to go to Disney with a kid that age, is they believe everything is real and the characters are real. Go with a 7 year old and they know they are just, characters.
I live in Florida so we go every 12-18 months for a long weekend and my kids definitely still remember things from when they were very little at Disney.
I'm not really sure what it means if you would only go to DW once ever with a kid? So you will never go back with them if you go at 5? Disney doesn't have to be a week long $10,000 vacation. You can swing in for 2 nights and spend a lot loss and still have a fantastic time while doing other things on your vacation.
ETA: I pretty much despise Disney for my own vacation, waiting in lines crammed in with people is not something I enjoy. But my wife enjoys it and furthermore we both enjoy how much fun our kids have.
But the most important reason to go to Disney with a kid that age, is they believe everything is real and the characters are real. Go with a 7 year old and they know they are just, characters.
I live in Florida so we go every 12-18 months for a long weekend and my kids definitely still remember things from when they were very little at Disney.
I'm not really sure what it means if you would only go to DW once ever with a kid? So you will never go back with them if you go at 5? Disney doesn't have to be a week long $10,000 vacation. You can swing in for 2 nights and spend a lot loss and still have a fantastic time while doing other things on your vacation.
ETA: I pretty much despise Disney for my own vacation, waiting in lines crammed in with people is not something I enjoy. But my wife enjoys it and furthermore we both enjoy how much fun our kids have.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 11:17 am
Posted on 3/16/21 at 9:56 pm to Salmon
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my 2 year just wants to run around and play, not stand in long lines and/or stay in a stroller all day
This is how my 2 year old is. It’s impossible to get her in a stroller. There’s no way I’d take her to Disney.
We took my oldest daughter for the first time at 3 and it was fine.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 7:14 am to LSUfan4444
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I'm curious to know what families do with two and a half year olds that are too young for Disney for vacations with their kids? Do you just not take them on vacations at all?
If you think the number one vacation resort in the world, specializing in family vacations that doesnt charge any ticket fees for kids that age is not appropriate for a two a half year old, what is?
I’m just guessing, but I would assume the point is that the kid won’t even remember it later. Most people don’t create long term memories until they are around 4 years old. So in some sense, it’s a wasted experience for them. On the other hand, I went to Disney when I was 5 years old and still remember certain aspects of the trip.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:32 am to 632627
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This is how my 2 year old is. It’s impossible to get her in a stroller. There’s no way I’d take her to Disney.
We took my oldest daughter for the first time at 3 and it was fine.
The rides for kids that are under 3 or so especially the new ones know this though. Many of them now have activities or movies or whatever for kids to stay busy in line. Its certainly not perfect by any means.
Why do we do anything with our kids? The idea that they won't remember it is one of the most absurd reasonings I've ever heard. Just because they won't remember it forever doesn't mean its not worth it or it won't have an impact on their lives. My kids absolutely remember some things from when they were 2-3 until they are 5, 6, 7 or older.
Its also about learning to travel and vacation with them, and having a good time with them. Experiencing new things as a family with them.
Is the argument really lets not do a single thing with a kid under 3 because they won't remember it? That's not how life works.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 2:08 pm to LSUfan4444
Your posts make Disney sound exhausting. I think it took less planning to invade Iraq.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:10 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
It definitely can be...especially for those who don't go often and get caught up in trying to "do it all"
I will say that without fastpasses, there is alot less planning needed now. Show up early, be willing to stay or come back late and you can have alot of success
I will say that without fastpasses, there is alot less planning needed now. Show up early, be willing to stay or come back late and you can have alot of success
Posted on 3/18/21 at 8:32 am to Nix to Twillie
People think I’m nuts but 2 is an awesome age for Disney. They are free for one thing and they love everything. I’ve done it 3 times now and never had issues. One trip we took breaks and all napped. One trip we let the kid sleep in the stroller. We abused the hell out of the child swap system too and we all got to ride certain rides multiple times.
Do it and don’t let anyone talk you out of it. There is a magic before age 5 that you will never get again so take advantage of it. People who wait really have no valid reason to do so but don’t really want to spend the money on their kids yet.
Do it and don’t let anyone talk you out of it. There is a magic before age 5 that you will never get again so take advantage of it. People who wait really have no valid reason to do so but don’t really want to spend the money on their kids yet.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 3:38 am to Nix to Twillie
Be sure to tell every person who asks about your kid not wearing a mask that they turn two next week. They don’t care, they’re just obligated to ask
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:44 pm to baldona
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Is the argument really lets not do a single thing with a kid under 3 because they won't remember it? That's not how life works.
No, the point some of us are trying to make is that Disney specifically isn’t ideal for every 2 year old. Some 2 year olds just want to run around and be wild, and don’t want to wait in lines or be stuck in a stroller for most of the day.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 2:39 pm to 632627
Theres a big difference between "two years old is too young for Disney" and "some two year olds don't want to be in a stroller".
Generally speaking, there's no reason that two is too young. If personal preferences or individual needs mean that some two year olds can't handle the heat or the stroller or has sensory issues, etc thats another thing...Disney isn't perfect for everyone.
Generally speaking, there's no reason that two is too young. If personal preferences or individual needs mean that some two year olds can't handle the heat or the stroller or has sensory issues, etc thats another thing...Disney isn't perfect for everyone.
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