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re: Fear of deadlifts
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:11 pm to aldawg2323
Posted on 3/10/21 at 9:11 pm to aldawg2323
doing them with a barbell gave me hemorrhoids.
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:12 am to Mo Jeaux
Thanks to all responders. ive been doing them for about 4 years now, and am a true believer. Something in his medical training has built a fear of this and other classic lifts, mostly the squat. gonna try to ease him into them without being a PIA
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:20 am to aldawg2323
Hex bar
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:09 pm to aldawg2323
If you're a true novice lifter who is starting this alone just reading online and watching YouTube - not working in a gym with a trainer, they legitimately are scary. Back in December I got a rack with the intention of starting to lift seriously, doing Greyskull LP - squats M/F, DL on Wednesday. Admittedly I am a bit of a pussy, but it took me about 4 squat sessions until I wasn't hesitating before each set, and about another 8 before I really felt comfortable with the movements where I can just go right down. I think with deadlifts I was feeling comfortable after the second set, and by the fourth I was confident in what I was doing.
I found with the deadlifts your body will tell you right as soon as you get under tension that you aren't in the right form. For me, it was needing to sit back more so my back wasn't as lateral. The adage of "think of it as an inverted squat" really helped. Also, the "arch your back" isn't good beginner advice. Its meant as a cue to keep you from rounding over. If you fight to actually arch your spine it'll hurt. Just make sure to maintain a neutral spine, not rounding over.
I found with the deadlifts your body will tell you right as soon as you get under tension that you aren't in the right form. For me, it was needing to sit back more so my back wasn't as lateral. The adage of "think of it as an inverted squat" really helped. Also, the "arch your back" isn't good beginner advice. Its meant as a cue to keep you from rounding over. If you fight to actually arch your spine it'll hurt. Just make sure to maintain a neutral spine, not rounding over.
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 3/11/21 at 3:36 pm to aldawg2323
It is by far the best lift hands down for strength and gainz.. Makes you stronger in every other lift.
But it is a little intimidating for me. I have bulge in l4 and I need to ensure 100% proper form. Odd enough Squats don't bother me
But it is a little intimidating for me. I have bulge in l4 and I need to ensure 100% proper form. Odd enough Squats don't bother me
Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:34 pm to Fe_Mike
quote:how TF do you crack a rib doing hex deads? I do these weekly and have zero clue how thats possible
and did some trap hex DLs instead and cracked a rib.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 4:54 pm to TigerFanatic99
I think the Big 3 is intimidating for a lot of people in the gym, that's why you usually don't see a ton of people doing them in a commercial gym setting.
Its usually just an unfounded irrational fear that people have because they've "heard" many horror stories about people hurting themselves doing them.
If you're looking for the best way to get overall strength, then there is nothing better.
Its usually just an unfounded irrational fear that people have because they've "heard" many horror stories about people hurting themselves doing them.
If you're looking for the best way to get overall strength, then there is nothing better.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:19 pm to Andychapman13
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I used to be able to rep 465 20 times! Now I have 5 herniated discs. In general I’d say “f#%* deadlifts”, but if they must be done do them very lightly. So many better ways to work all those muscle groups and not destroy your body.
465x20? I'm not sure I believe you
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:21 pm to Andychapman13
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I used to be able to rep 465 20 times! Now I have 5 herniated discs. In general I’d say “f#%* deadlifts”, but if they must be done do them very lightly. So many better ways to work all those muscle groups and not destroy your body.
You have herniated disks from training like an idiot, not from deadlifts
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:45 pm to lattin1
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465x20? I'm not sure I believe you
Glad someone else saw this. I just laughed.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 6:48 pm to Buckeye06
I know he's strong AF, but the implied one rep max would be 775 so I'm not sure I'm buying it either. I don't doubt based on his other posts he could pull that multiple times unless he's got some long con going on
Posted on 3/11/21 at 7:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I guess but when you're doing 20 reps of something you could do it 30% heavier for like 6 reps. I'm not doing the math in my head.
I never do more than like 6 reps on DL. It's the one lift I don't ever go high reps
I never do more than like 6 reps on DL. It's the one lift I don't ever go high reps
Posted on 3/11/21 at 8:15 pm to aldawg2323
Risk isn’t worth the reward IMO
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:10 am to aldawg2323
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i have a friend, who is a cardiologist, admittedly fearful of trying deadlifts, as the movement's physics do not seem to him to be safe
There is some truth to that. The barbell deadlift requires a slightly unnatural lift with the bar movement out front and this is probably why most injuries occur. At light weight it is nothing, but at heavy weight form is everything and must be precise.
Heavy barbell DLs has put me out of commission three times in my life. After the 3rd I pretty much only use hexbar for heavy DL days. The hex is a more natural movement for your body.
If you are competing or moving into other Olympic lifts stay with barbell, else Hex for life!!!
Posted on 3/15/21 at 12:39 pm to DarthRebel
In my experience, injuries from the DL are a result of some kind of technical error or weakness. Have you ever had a coach look at your pulls?
Posted on 3/15/21 at 1:45 pm to DeafJam73
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Have you ever had a coach look at your pulls?
Not now, because I am past that point in my life and lift for my health only. Hex bar DLs is all I need for heavy. Barbell DLs for volume day.
As I aged, lower back became a weakness. 20 years ago no issues. Just life and genetics.
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