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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:32 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:32 pm to GEAUXmedic
So trace amounts of drugs in nanograms doesn't prove he was high out of his mind. Those aren't significant amounts to cause death.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:33 pm to Northshore Saint
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So trace amounts of drugs in nanograms doesn't prove he was high out of his mind. Those aren't significant amounts to cause death.
Fentanyl levels are measured in nanograms per milliliter because it is lethal in relatively small amounts. Carfentanil absolutely blows fentanyl out of the water.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:34 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Must be based on testimony from someone else who was in the car. If he had swallowed an actual bag, then it most likely would have been recovered during the autopsy. It’s very unlikely that it would have passed through the pylorus by death and they likely ran the entire bowel for this case anyway.
You're right. I have probably been duped by some photoshop troll and I can put this aside from everything else.
I can't find the photo that I saw in the past for some reason and it hasn't been entered as evidence so I'm willing to retract my emotional response from earlier.
And I deleted my original comment on this subject.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:40 pm to IAmNERD
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:41 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Carfentanil absolutely blows fentanyl out of the water.
Is that not the tranquilizer the main characters used on the T-Rex in The Lost World: Jurassic Park?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:43 pm to Northshore Saint
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So trace amounts of drugs in nanograms doesn't prove he was high out of his mind. Those aren't significant amounts to cause death.
Nanograms per milliliter. It wasn’t trace amounts.
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The presence of fentanyl above 0.20 ng/mL or norfentanyl above 1.0 ng/mL is a strong indicator that the patient has used fentanyl.
Levels present in his system:
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1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:43 pm to ApexTiger
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tell us about the breathing at this point in your opinion
yea I must have forgotten the old wisdom that when someone is having trouble breathing the best move is put them in a position making it harder to breath and then restrict their chest wall excursion.
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:46 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Damn so GF was arrested a year ago and acted the exact same way
He was and he did. But, the judge has deemed this inadmissible, so can't factor it as a juror.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:46 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Is that not the tranquilizer the main characters used on the T-Rex in The Lost World: Jurassic Park?
Yep, I'm right. And they use an amphetamine to wake it up which causes the T-Rex to go on a rampage in San Diego.
So they gave the T-Rex a speedball.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:46 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Is that not the tranquilizer the main characters used on the T-Rex in The Lost World: Jurassic Park?
Yep. It’s for veterinary use, but will occasionally show up in illicit opioids.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:48 pm to GEAUXmedic
Wait. A chiropractor is calling themselves a doctor? Lol
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:49 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Levels present in his system:
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1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
so your point is floyd had a very survivable fentanyl level on the low end of normal range of fentanyl which is used in the background of propofol, benzo, and gas used in anesthesia.
guess you made your point.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:55 pm to AMS
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everyones heart fails when they die
Goddamn, I cannot believe I missed this gem.
By this logic, a person who is shot in the face with a shotgun died from cardiac arrest because their heart stopped after being shot in the face.
Sounds fricking retarded, huh?
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:55 pm to AMS
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so your point is floyd had a very survivable fentanyl level on the low end of normal range of fentanyl which is used in the background of propofol, benzo, and gas used in anesthesia.
Wrong again fake doctor.
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Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.
Polysubstance is the use of more than one drug at a time, which looking at his autopsy report, he was.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:55 pm to AMS
did he not have other underlying issues?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:57 pm to t00f
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did he not have other underlying issues?
Of course he did, but AMS is so enlightened he disregards that and the potentiating effects of stimulants and opioids.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:58 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Polysubstance is the use of more than one drug at a time, which looking at his autopsy report, he was.
Again, he brings it up in the clinical setting and ignores it in the actual setting on the street in GFs body ignoring the meth which he doesn't cite.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:01 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Carfentanil
Don't want to sound judgmental, but you might have a problem if you're abusing a tranquilizer meant for elephants.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Carfentanil
Don't want to sound judgmental, but you might have a problem if you're abusing a tranquilizer meant for elephants.
Well, you probably wouldn't know you were abusing an elephant tranquilizer if you bought heroin off the street cut with carfentanyl.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 10:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
Unquestionable Floyd was on drugs (his crazed reactions, tox report, physical evidence)
Later we learned he had swallowed drugs before to allude police.
Curious things after watching again today was why they stuck around after crime and stayed in car for for half an hour even after being comforted by store workers?
Floyd was loudly verbalizing and even communicated with people on the sidewalk up until two minutes before Medical got to him.
He still appeared to be breathing/moving one 1.5 minutes before medical actually got to him (despite what crowd was saying)
Medical arrived on site just as Floyd appeared to stop moving and one officer took his pulse and said he didn’t feel one. One minute later they got to Floyd after the officers checked his pulse a number of times. When medical got to Floyd, Chauvin then moved his knee.
Zero way Floyd couldn’t breath for the over 4 minutes prior when he else’s loudly verbalizing and repeating the exact phrases he repeated before officers attempted to get him in the car.
His two copassengers alluded something wasn’t right with Floyd.
What kept them there for 30 minutes after crime?
Why didn’t the officers take any additional steps once they realized he didn’t have a pulse? Was it because medical was on scene? They thought he had just passed out? I mean he was loud af for an hour then silent.
Later we learned he had swallowed drugs before to allude police.
Curious things after watching again today was why they stuck around after crime and stayed in car for for half an hour even after being comforted by store workers?
Floyd was loudly verbalizing and even communicated with people on the sidewalk up until two minutes before Medical got to him.
He still appeared to be breathing/moving one 1.5 minutes before medical actually got to him (despite what crowd was saying)
Medical arrived on site just as Floyd appeared to stop moving and one officer took his pulse and said he didn’t feel one. One minute later they got to Floyd after the officers checked his pulse a number of times. When medical got to Floyd, Chauvin then moved his knee.
Zero way Floyd couldn’t breath for the over 4 minutes prior when he else’s loudly verbalizing and repeating the exact phrases he repeated before officers attempted to get him in the car.
His two copassengers alluded something wasn’t right with Floyd.
What kept them there for 30 minutes after crime?
Why didn’t the officers take any additional steps once they realized he didn’t have a pulse? Was it because medical was on scene? They thought he had just passed out? I mean he was loud af for an hour then silent.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 10:19 pm
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