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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:06 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:06 pm to ApexTiger
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why is the first medical examiner's conclusion of heart failure not on your list?
lmao i dont ignore that. everyones heart fails when they die. CP arrest just means you died lmao.
why do you ignore all 3 saying it was a homicide?
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:07 pm to AMS
Typical of you to ask for us to provide more proof when you haven’t posted one shred of it. Go back and read our posts. As far as I’m concerned this debate is over and you lost miserably.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:07 pm to GEAUXmedic
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Thanks for proving our point?
yea if your point is that DC killed GF but may not suffer legal ramifications, point proven?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:10 pm to AMS
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please tell me more about your EMT credentials and how that makes you more qualified or knowledgeable than the 3 medical examiners who disagree with you. - me
You keep trying to say this and I've never once claimed it. - you
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I will answer as a nationally certified EMT. - you
lmao. first your a nationally certified EMT, now youve never claimed it.
I mean, yeah, my name is on the national registry of EMTs. Which is what I said to the person I responded to, which was approximately# pages BEFORE where you quoted me for context. Even with you trying to change the timeline of my post, it still doesn't prove where I said that I am more qualified or trained than a physician.
Please, link me to where I said I had more training than physicians.
Because, well, you just quoted text out of order. So this leads me to believe you're nothing but a BLM troll.
Because in class and in real life scenarios (aka a pre-hospital setting) which I have a lot of experience in, patients having difficulty breathing are not considered serious, or in need of advanced life saving techniques, if they respond you your questioning. Of course this is considering any of the other ABCs (airway, breathing, circulation) of Emergency medicine are not present.
Talking, right off the bat excludes airway AND breathing as you need both to speak. The police obviously continuously checked his pulse for circulation and found it.
That's not even considering that police officers aren't even certified as EMTS on any level other than their departmental CPR certification (in most cases depending on department because they aren't paying for school for all cops).
And this is basic EMT stuff. Not even certified paramedic, which has authorization to push drugs on physician orders.
But this is a moot point because you love to distort facts and refuse to answer and be evasive about direct questions.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:12 pm to AMS
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why do you ignore all 3 saying it was a homicide?
Because attorney Ben Crump came on the scene and demanded a "better" analysis, one that fits the knee that everyone saw. All of sudden, we get different takes
Crump is a dirty attorney, he put and coached a fake witness (a woman posing as Martin's girlfriend) on the stand in the Trayvon Martin case.
Turns out the no so smart young lady was the step sister of the real girlfriend of Martin
Crump shouldn't be practicing law at this point
the police video shows Floyd was in full panic mode, stating he couldn't breathe at least 10 times inside the car, it wasn't murder...
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:12 pm to IAmNERD
In other news. Maurice Hall, the guy in the passenger seat with GF just filed a notice through his public defender that he will invoke his 5th amendment rights when on the stand cause he might self incriminate.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:13 pm to GEAUXmedic
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In other news. Maurice Hall, the guy in the passenger seat with GF just filed a notice through his public defender that he will invoke his 5th amendment rights when on the stand cause he might self incriminate.
Inter-fricking-resting.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:14 pm to AMS
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..lol just lol. you are reeeeeeeaaaaaaaally reaching on that one.
Yea I’m calling this one.
This guy is pre med at the most. Decent google/Wikipedia skills more likely.
No medical license will be forthcoming. Case closed.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:15 pm to GEAUXmedic
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In other news. Maurice Hall, the guy in the passenger seat with GF just filed a notice through his public defender that he will invoke his 5th amendment rights when on the stand cause he might self incriminate.
Probably using drugs while sitting in the car.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:17 pm to Yellerhammer5
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This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:18 pm to IAmNERD
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the baggie of drugs that he eventually swallowed while sitting in the car.
Did they find a bag of drugs in his GI tract during the autopsy?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:18 pm to Yellerhammer5
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In other news. Maurice Hall, the guy in the passenger seat with GF just filed a notice through his public defender that he will invoke his 5th amendment rights when on the stand cause he might self incriminate.
Probably using drugs while sitting in the car.
I believe this is correct answer
I believe Floyd swallowed his drugs...when the police showed up at his car window. (there is a photo of Floyd'd mouth open, showing a white pill)
the store clerk said Floyd was already high
so I'd like to know if Floyd took more drugs right before he was handcuffed...
I think it's relevant
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:21 pm to ApexTiger
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Because attorney Ben Crump came on the scene and demanded a "better" analysis, one that fits the knee that everyone saw. All of sudden, we get different takes
Crump is a dirty attorney, he put and coached a fake witness (a woman posing as Martin's girlfriend) on the stand in the Trayvon Martin case.
I couldn't agree more about Crump. That guy is a big time trouble maker and thorn in the side for America in general.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:22 pm to IAmNERD
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Talking, right off the bat excludes airway AND breathing as you need both to speak. The police obviously continuously checked his pulse for circulation and found it.
please tell me more about this. Explain how its certainly impossible to slowly desaturate over prolonged compromise airway? certainly struggling to breath for extended time cannot wear out your respiratory muscles, how that absolutely cannot cause respiratory failure when external restrictions are applied. theres a reason those knowledgable understand it to be asphyxiation. surely having a pulse means you are 100% O2 sats. circulation =/= respiration.
Sure see if they can talk method is a decent way to screen if someone is able to breath in that specific instant, but tells you nothing about their oxygenation (thats the important part of breathing)
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:23 pm to AMS
I’m just here to say thanks for the entertainment and it seems to be past someone’s bedtime
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:24 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Did they find a bag of drugs in his GI tract during the autopsy?
some of these people lmao.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:26 pm to Yellerhammer5
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Did they find a bag of drugs in his GI tract during the autopsy?
You're right, I probably shouldn't put that out there until it has been proven.
I only said it based in pictures I've seen and statements from the defense pretrial.
So thank you for calling me out. Trolls have gotten under my skin tonight.
FWIW, this has a quote from the defense's opening statements that I was basing my information on.
LINK
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‘The evidence will show that when confronted by police, Mr Floyd put drugs in his mouth in an effort to conceal them from the police,’ defense lawyer Eric Nelson told the jury in opening statements on Monday morning.
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:28 pm to AMS
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its certainly impossible to slowly desaturate over prolonged compromise airway?
Over just one minute? And causing death?
No. I'll need to see the data on that.
Especially when they were speaking just fine the 7 minutes prior. And staying he can't breathe more than 10 mins prior to being restrained.
Remember...reasonable doubt.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:30 pm to AMS
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please tell me more about this. Explain how its certainly impossible to slowly desaturate over prolonged compromise airway? certainly struggling to breath for extended time cannot wear out your respiratory muscles, how that absolutely cannot cause respiratory failure when external restrictions are applied. theres a reason those knowledgable understand it to be asphyxiation. surely having a pulse means you are 100% O2 sats. circulation =/= respiration.
Sure see if they can talk method is a decent way to screen if someone is able to breath in that specific instant, but tells you nothing about their oxygenation (thats the important part of breathing)
let's go back to the backseat...
tell us about the breathing at this point in your opinion
Floyd refuses to stay in the back seat...maintains he can not breathe
I believe at this point he was feeling extreme anxiety ...he could breathe but was feeling a failure, perhaps like he was drowning inside out..he could tell his time was closing quickly ... he begged to lay down ...later he says "I love your momma"...
when people feel like they are about to black out or faint, they want to lay down...
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:31 pm to IAmNERD
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You're right, I probably shouldn't put that out there until it has been proven.
I only said it based in pictures I've seen and statements from the defense pretrial.
So thank you for calling me out. Trolls have gotten under my skin tonight.
FWIW, this has a quote from the defense's opening statements that I was basing my information on.
Must be based on testimony from someone else who was in the car. If he had swallowed an actual bag, then it most likely would have been recovered during the autopsy. It’s very unlikely that it would have passed through the pylorus by death and they likely ran the entire bowel for this case anyway.
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