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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
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You have me excited and I missed this nugget in your response.



Another outright lie.

Multiple posters asked you. And my post broken down to the simplest element of if you're certified by any of the 50 states prompted you to answer after you were evasive and twisting words finally got you to respond, "yes, I'm certified".

Now you're trying to distort facts of easily verified text on the internet?

You aren't too brigh
I've never met a doc, and in my line of work that's been a ton, that didn't throw their credentials at every opportunity.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
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except for ya know the medical documents, consensus of the 3 medical examiners, and video evidence all point to that.


You keep saying these lies thinking it'll make them true.

Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
it does not mean that. It means there was another person there at the time of death and it would need to be determined by law enforcement if there was an actual crime resulting in death.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
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But it doesn't, it means something did. It doesn't say what.

Did you miss that lesson on forensic pathology in chiropractic school?


what nonsense are you babbling about? the death was ruled a HOMICIDE.

go ahead and try to homicide someone with Arteriosclerotic or hypertensive heart disease; their own voluntary use of fentanyl and methamphetamine before you are involved.
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
1297 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:54 pm to
On the outside, reasonable doubt is gonna be very hard to overcome here. Video of GF saying he cant breath before the knee to his back. The drugs in his system that cause cardiopulmonary arrest, the fact that no bruising to his trachea, and the move isnt necessary banned by his department. All lead to a logical person saying there's reasonable doubt that Chauvin did kill GF. But we know how this will go, they'll convict likely due to pressure imo.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:55 pm to
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try to homicide someone with Arteriosclerotic or hypertensive heart disease; their own voluntary use of fentanyl and methamphetamine before you are involved.


Happens all the time.

LINK

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Authorities arrested a man after a 40-year-old woman was found dead with lethal levels of heroin and fentanyl in her blood.

Ecknozzio Jackson, 29, is facing second-degree murder and the distribution of schedule I controlled dangerous substance/heroin charges.

East Baton Rouge Sheriffs Office Homicide Detectives investigated a homicide December 17, 2019, where they later discovered the cause of death was lethal levels of Heroin and Fentanyl in the victim's blood.

During the investigation, homicide detectives identified Jackson as a person that the victim was known to purchase heroin from.

This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:56 pm to
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it does not mean that. It means there was another person there at the time of death and it would need to be determined by law enforcement if there was an actual crime resulting in death.



you think medical examiners determine homicide as cause of death simply if someone is just kinda like nearby? lmao wut
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157875 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:56 pm to
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the death was ruled a HOMICIDE.


Legally?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:57 pm to
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lmao wut


A doctor can't spell "What"? You type like a 10 year old on xbox live.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102119 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:58 pm to
funny how that is how you interpreted what I said.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:58 pm to
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quote:
try to homicide someone with Arteriosclerotic or hypertensive heart disease; their own voluntary use of fentanyl and methamphetamine before you are involved.


Happens all the time.

LINK

quote:
Authorities arrested a man after a 40-year-old woman was found dead with lethal levels of heroin and fentanyl in her blood.

Ecknozzio Jackson, 29, is facing second-degree murder and the distribution of schedule I controlled dangerous substance/heroin charges.

East Baton Rouge Sheriffs Office Homicide Detectives investigated a homicide December 17, 2019, where they later discovered the cause of death was lethal levels of Heroin and Fentanyl in the victim's blood.

During the investigation, homicide detectives identified Jackson as a person that the victim was known to purchase heroin from.



...lol just lol. you are reeeeeeeaaaaaaaally reaching on that one.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:59 pm to
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the death was ruled a HOMICIDE.


well, now we're going to see if that sticks
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 8:59 pm to
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you think medical examiners determine homicide as cause of death simply if someone is just kinda like nearby?

quote:


When a medical examiner identifies a manner of death as “homicide,” they are not drawing a legal conclusion. When a death is not from disease, homicide is simply one of the five permissible classifications of death.

According to the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME), “[h]omicide occurs when death results from a volitional act committed by another person to cause fear, harm, or death.”

In a publication entitled A Guide for Manner of Death Classification, NAME specifically notes “[i]t is to be emphasized that the classification of Homicide for the purposes of death certification is a ‘neutral’ term and neither indicates nor implies criminal intent, which remains a determination within the province of legal processes.”


Along with my previous post, you should research more before posting.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:00 pm to
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...lol just lol. you are reeeeeeeaaaaaaaally reaching on that one.



How? You're the one who can't argue ANY facts. Everything you said is hyperbole and lies. You literally cannot prove DC caused the death of GF. You thought you would come in here and swing your little doctor dick and everyone would believe you. Come to find out, you're a glorified physical therapist who talks like a 10 year old playing fortnite.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:02 pm to
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still waiting for your expertise and info that proves 3/3 medical examiners incorrect.


why is the first medical examiner's conclusion of heart failure not on your list?
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:03 pm to
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it does not mean that. It means there was another person there at the time of death and it would need to be determined by law enforcement if there was an actual crime resulting in death.


Where the frick do you people come up with this shite?

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:04 pm to
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. You literally cannot prove DC caused the death of GF


what expertise or facts do you have the refute the findings of the medical examiners that DC caused GFs death?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:05 pm to
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How? You're the one who can't argue ANY facts. Everything you said is hyperbole and lies. You literally cannot prove DC caused the death of GF. You thought you would come in here and swing your little doctor dick and everyone would believe you. Come to find out, you're a glorified physical therapist who talks like a 10 year old playing fortnite.



AMS as I recall last year, is all about recreational levels of drug use being an acceptable defense of "not the cause of death"
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:05 pm to
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Happens all the time.



Again, the medical examiner would have ruled those deaths as an accident. Law enforcement can choose whether or not they want to press charges against people.

Manner of death = medical definition and is separate from legal ramifications.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 9:06 pm to
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Manner of death = medical definition and is separate from legal ramifications.


Thanks for proving our point?

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Again, the medical examiner would have ruled those deaths as an accident. Law enforcement can choose whether or not they want to press charges against people.


No, I literally posted what homicide is as far as medical examiners go.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 9:08 pm
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