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Major losses in excess of $2 Billion for MLS
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 2/10/21 at 5:42 pm
Not such good news from Garber today
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Not good for a league that already operates in the red
The lack of a really good TV deal probably is a big factor
Other leagues still getting paid big bucks on TV money even with the pandemic
Also the single entity is probably hurting the league in this too, having your own kit deal can help offset some losses and having to share ticket revenue money is probably fricking clubs over taking on the losses of everyone else
MLS has become kind of an afterthought in the American sports scene
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In December, Garber claimed that MLS sustained a $1bn drop in revenue in 2020, though league sources later amended that statement to "nearly $1bn" in losses. "We are forecasted to lose pretty close to $1bn, if not $1bn, that we have been talking about," Garber said about 2021. "When you don't have fans for the majority of your season, it's just pure math. So that being said, our owners have been very, very focused over a long period of time to build a league. But they're their resources are not unlimited. We've got to drive revenue. We've got to think about new ways to approach our business."
Not good for a league that already operates in the red
The lack of a really good TV deal probably is a big factor
Other leagues still getting paid big bucks on TV money even with the pandemic
Also the single entity is probably hurting the league in this too, having your own kit deal can help offset some losses and having to share ticket revenue money is probably fricking clubs over taking on the losses of everyone else
MLS has become kind of an afterthought in the American sports scene
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 6:11 pm
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:08 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I wrote off MLS and gave my ducats away to business contacts once Portland tacitly started allowing ANTIFA banners in the ultras section 
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:10 pm to SirWinston
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ultras
I don’t think you understand or know what that means
Posted on 2/10/21 at 6:44 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I mean, they make a lot of revenue from the gate so covid has definitely hurt. I think they’ll be ok though. And they just extended the current CBA and kept player salaries the same (no cuts) which is more than many leagues can say.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:20 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:38 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:30 pm to SirWinston
If you think MLS teams have real ultras 
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:35 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I'd argue that the Timbers Army is more politically active and radical than any current fan brigade in Western Europe (UK, Spain, Germany) or North America. If they had the same activities but were conservative instead of liberal they'd have already been classified as a "hate group" by SPLC.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:42 pm to SirWinston
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I'd argue that the Timbers Army is more politically active and radical than any current fan brigade in Western Europe (UK, Spain, Germany) or North America. If they had the same activities but were conservative instead of liberal they'd have already been classified as a "hate group" by SPLC.
You are an idiot
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:41 pm to SirWinston
Mate I have up my season tickets after AU refused to play
Posted on 2/12/21 at 3:10 am to StraightCashHomey21
Not that it really matters, but that passage (I just skimmed the article) doesn’t make it sound like it’s two billion
ETA: got it now w/2020 and projected 2021
ETA: got it now w/2020 and projected 2021
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 3:15 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:11 am to StraightCashHomey21
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MLS has become kind of an afterthought in the American sports scene
Yea it had some momentum 4-5 years ago.
Now seems pretty stale
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:36 am to I Bleed Garnet
Personally, I can’t support a league where it holds teams back from acquiring players due to a salary cap that is so low. I know DP’s full salary don’t count against the cap but those middle tier players are what separates MLS and Liga MX.
It’s tough to watch a great player held back by a couple of scrub players that hold a place in the team just because they are cheap. Last, there is no reason to cap international spots in a league where they have so many teams. If it was a 20 team first division league I could understand but it’s about to be 30 teams. We don’t have enough good players to support 10 teams
It’s tough to watch a great player held back by a couple of scrub players that hold a place in the team just because they are cheap. Last, there is no reason to cap international spots in a league where they have so many teams. If it was a 20 team first division league I could understand but it’s about to be 30 teams. We don’t have enough good players to support 10 teams
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:54 am to Girth Donor
And it’s not like MLS academies are producing great players for the league
All the quality ones bounce before they are 21
All the quality ones bounce before they are 21
Posted on 2/12/21 at 6:59 am to StraightCashHomey21
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And it’s not like MLS academies are producing great players for the league
You know this ain’t true
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All the quality ones bounce before they are 21
I don’t see this as a problem. I’m ok with MLS becoming a springboard/selling league to Europe.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:30 am to cwil177
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You know this ain’t true
It’s very true
The quality kids leave first chance they get right out the academy
Or after a season or two of first team
Not good for sustainment for a league that wants to be top 5 but has a ton restrictions that hurt the quality of play.
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I don’t see this as a problem. I’m ok with MLS becoming a springboard/selling league to Europe.
It isn’t
The Brazil and Argentina model is what MLS needs to strive for
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 7:37 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:39 am to Girth Donor
It was a big deal here in NY first couple seasons
Then it just fell off.
Then it just fell off.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 7:42 am to Girth Donor
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Last, there is no reason to cap international spots in a league where they have so many teams
It's really not that bad since anyone with a green card counts as a domestic player.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:01 am to pvilleguru
So why have it?
Posted on 2/12/21 at 8:07 am to Girth Donor
To at least make you have a few Americans/Canadians on the roster? So you don't just bring in 10 foreigners in 1 window? To again make teams put their academy to use?
The league wants to limit the number of foreign players, but US law prohibits them from counting green card holders as foreign players. It's kind of a loophole that they can't do anything about.
The league wants to limit the number of foreign players, but US law prohibits them from counting green card holders as foreign players. It's kind of a loophole that they can't do anything about.
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 8:29 am
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