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re: Major losses in excess of $2 Billion for MLS

Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Chilling

Nice nice

Doing anything for Valentine’s Day?
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:18 pm to
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Still won’t be much compared to other American Leagues or other soccer leagues around the world
Ok? That would surprise exactly zero people.

Wouldn't be surprised with a 75% increase, though. Ratings are much better than in 2015, and you'll likely at least get a short-term increase with the 2026 WC.
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Ok? That would surprise exactly zero people.


Bc all other leagues will go up too, the league will still be behind the economic 8 ball with it also trying to increase wages.
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Wouldn't be surprised with a 75% increase, though. Ratings are much better than in 2015, and you'll likely at least get a short-term increase with the 2026 WC.



You are insane

That type of increase would put it like $80 million less per season than the current total EPL/NBC deal

The American soccer market isn’t MLS

It’s EPL and LigaMX

Expect to see a big jump in those deals as a majority of the WC stars people will be watching won’t be from MLS

NBC got away with a steal paying so low for EPL rights compared to the rest of the world
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Boo Krewe
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:34 pm to
Lol
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Garber has already instructed teams to not agree to TV rights deals beyond 2022 in preparation for these crucial negotiations. There is a growing belief that he and the league will negotiate a groundbreaking proposal that centralises the entire process, thus increasing the revenue of the league — and thereby the money that is shared between the teams — substantially. But as Forbes reports, “they’d need to increase [the TV revenue] several-fold to get the league to break-even, assuming expenses stay level.” And this is incorporating for the expansion fees.


LMAOO
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
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Lol

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Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 5:02 pm to
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NBC got away with a steal paying so low for EPL rights compared to the rest of the world

Next season is their last
Where you think it goes next?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 5:07 pm to
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Next season is their last
Where you think it goes next?


It will be interesting the league def gave them a favorable price when they extended the deal probably bc they were happy with NBC was doing

But now with gold and then peacock, along with NBCSN going away the limiting the availability of the league will definitely be a negotiation point

In most Asian countries every match is on tv for free

This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 5:13 pm to
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It will be interesting the league def gave them a favorable price when they extended the deal probably bc they were happy with NBC was doing

But now with gold and then peacock, along with NBCSN going away the limiting the availability of the league will definitely be a negotiation point

In most Asian countries every match is on tv for free


So you think ESPN will try and get it?
By every game free you mean at 10am (in normal times), if there’s 6 games on they got 6 games going on different channels?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 5:24 pm to
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So you think ESPN will try and get it?
By every game free you mean at 10am (in normal times), if there’s 6 games on they got 6 games going on different channels?


Yea outside the UK which can show 3pm local kick offs

They have the games on multiple channels in those countries or even in some European countries with DAZN

MLS would for sure benefit from one national deal and take the Bundesliga approach with SkySport in Germany.

Show national matches in prime time Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday afternoon matches and then everyone else play those mid afternoon Saturday matches and have MLS channels showing them all at once
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:07 pm to
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Show national matches in prime time Friday night, Saturday night and Sunday afternoon matches and then everyone else play those mid afternoon Saturday matches and have MLS channels showing them all at once

Didn’t they have this a few years ago?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:18 pm to
MLS live was a terrible stream service that still had matches blacked out

MLS is going to have a hard time getting teams not to do their regional tv deals with fox sports, Comcast etc.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:52 pm to
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MLS live was a terrible stream service that still had matches blacked out

What?
I was just talking about non app related games

I remember NYCFCs first year the MLS had a pretty big national TV marketing campaign
They’d do a Friday night game on a national channel (ESPN or Fox) as well as one on UniMas (and they’d teach you how to switch the commentary to English)
Saturday would mostly be a day for local games with one game on the big Fox (mostly rivalry games or shite I remember NYCFC vs NYRB would be on Fox on a Saturday afternoon)

And then follow that up with a few games on Sunday of FS1, normally East coast or Midwest earlier and a west coast game later

NYCFCs first year they started the season with like 5-6 games on national TV and then I remember everyone flipping out because they moved to YES Network 2 once baseball season started and it was a channel that not every cable provider had
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:03 pm to
SCH btfo
Guys such a dbag
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Still won’t be much compared to other American Leagues or other soccer leagues around the world

NBC pays more for EPL shown in the morning than the total MLS deal lol

MLS has a lesser TV deal than the world’s most popular league. I look forward to more of these enlightening takes.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 9:37 pm to
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MLS has a lesser TV deal than the world’s most popular league. I look forward to more of these enlightening takes.

Hey, lay off him man
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:00 pm to
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Hey, lay off him man


Those two dudes hold the water for MLS no matter what

Also not shocking they are the two biggest Gregg B and USSF backers on here
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125403 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:04 pm to
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What?
I was just talking about non app related games

I remember NYCFCs first year the MLS had a pretty big national TV marketing campaign
They’d do a Friday night game on a national channel (ESPN or Fox) as well as one on UniMas (and they’d teach you how to switch the commentary to English)
Saturday would mostly be a day for local games with one game on the big Fox (mostly rivalry games or shite I remember NYCFC vs NYRB would be on Fox on a Saturday afternoon)

And then follow that up with a few games on Sunday of FS1, normally East coast or Midwest earlier and a west coast game later

NYCFCs first year they started the season with like 5-6 games on national TV and then I remember everyone flipping out because they moved to YES Network 2 once baseball season started and it was a channel that not every cable provider had


Gotcha

No not every MLS game is a national broadcast for everyone to see

The German model I’m talking about every match can been seen on SkySport Germany and a couple free ones a week on Sport1.

They have Sky Bundesliga channels that will have all matches available live when there is like 6 going on at once

Similar to how NBC did with all its networks with the EPL before that Peacock garbage
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:08 pm to
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No not every MLS game is a national broadcast for everyone to see

Yes I know that
They do this like every non NFL or College sport in the United States
I was just asking if they still do what it was like a few years ago

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The German model I’m talking about every match can been seen on SkySport Germany and a couple free ones a week on Sport1.

They have Sky Bundesliga channels that will have all matches available live when there is like 6 going on at once

Gotcha
I would bet they don’t do this because
A) it isn’t popular enough nationally
And B) the MLS teams actually make more from RSNs

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:16 pm to
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And B) the MLS teams actually make more from RSN


Garber wants them to not do that

Problem is teams are scraping every cent they can

That quote I posted early about needing tv revenue to multiple seven fold is alarming
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