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re: Major losses in excess of $2 Billion for MLS

Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:27 pm to
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Garber wants them to not do that


Well that’s an issue
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:32 pm to
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Well that’s an issue


Well it makes sense bc the regional tv model isn’t how major soccer leagues operate and it’s not a good way to grow the game

But like we were saying it’s a good way for teams to supplement some revenue

Almost every team in the league operates in the red. Hard to convince owners not to do their own local exclusive tv rights when they know the national demand and money isn’t there.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:36 pm to
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Other leagues still getting paid big bucks on TV money even with the pandemic

Aren’t the big 6 European leagues set to lose something like 8-9 billion during this?


LINK

Sure teams aren’t hurting like the MLS (which is a no shite Sherlock)
Everyone’s losing money because of this
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 10:41 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:38 pm to
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Well it makes sense bc the regional tv model isn’t how major soccer leagues operate and it’s not a good way to grow the game

But that’s not how you do it in the United States (with the exception of the NFL and College football and basketball)
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:42 pm to
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Idk about this
Aren’t the big 6 European leagues set to lose something like 8-9 billion during this


Mostly from match day revenue

Those TV deals are set in stone. In the UK Sky and BT been working overtime showing matches.
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Sure teams aren’t hurting like the MLS (which is a no shite Sherlock)
Everyone’s losing money because of this



Same thing mostly match day money but this happens to be when MLS has to redo its tv deal
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 10:44 pm to
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But that’s not how you do it in the United States (with the exception of the NFL and College football and basketball)


Yea but the American franchise way to doing things isn’t really working out that great for the league

It’s really in a tough spot

The espn+ deal letting you be able to access regional matches is nice but not everyone is going to stream and only the most hardcore MLS fan will go through the trouble to do so.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:01 pm to
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Yea but the American franchise way to doing things isn’t really working out that great for the league


But shouldn’t you be thinking about your franchise first?


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The espn+ deal letting you be able to access regional matches is nice but not everyone is going to stream and only the most hardcore MLS fan will go through the trouble to do so.

Are you sure though?
There’s a lotta shite on ESPN+ Nowadays (maybe even EPL in the future)
Didn’t they just hit numbers higher than they anticipated in Q4?
But I’d think the more soccer that gets added to that will only help people watching the MLS.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:02 pm to
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Mostly from match day revenue

The article says match day, broadcasting and commercials
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:29 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:08 pm to
And now it looks like future deals in Europe are set to decrease

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ANALYSIS-Soccer-European leagues' domestic TV revenue set to drop as competition fades

LINK
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:23 pm to
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The article says March day, broadcasting and commercia


Match day and advertising is the big one

The broadcasting deals are set until it expires

But in those major euro leagues the more you are on tv the more of a share you get of the tv dollars.

That’s why United and Liverpool even when they suck get a ton of domestic TV money bc everyone wants to watch them.
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:24 pm to
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And now it looks like future deals in Europe are set to decrease



Sucks for the leagues outside of England lol
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:30 am to
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Sucks for the leagues outside of England lol


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With the Premier League, the French Ligue 1 and Spain's Liga also due to negotiate deals for the next cycle this year, there is little optimism that domestic rights, which had grown strongly over the past two decades, will bring a much-needed cash boost.


Maybe I’m reading something wrong here?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 7:31 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:54 am to
The French league is in shambles after the media company went belly up a few months ago

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The French league has faced the most dramatic situation following the collapse of a deal with Spanish agency Mediapro which led to much reduced revenue for this season.


The EPL is fine they will probably stay along with the same type of deal that have now which is massive

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Sky Sports in the UK shares the rights to the Premier League with BT Sport but there is unlikely to be a bidding war between the two when the competition undertakes its auction later this year. While Sky will not want to risk losing its rights and the long-standing relationship it has with the Premier League means it is unlikely to seek to massively cut its fees, there appears little incentive to make a higher bid.


That’s from your article

TV rights in most these countries is only one maybe two networks, so there is no legit competition in bidding wars.

Sky is a multi country juggernaut

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:07 am to
Ah okay that’s good
You know a lot of this stuff baw
Do you work in media/or FP&A for one of these media conglomerates ?
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 8:08 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:11 am to
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Ah okay that’s good
You know a lot of this stuff baw


Post pandemic id expect a ton of clubs in Europe to kill it with match day revenue, especially with fans flooding to team shops and stuff.
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Do you work in media/or FP&A for one of these media conglomerates ?
lol no
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:15 am to
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lol no

Jeez, don’t need to laugh at me.
Had no clue WTF you do and you seem every educated in all this

Lotta information about this stuff and I’m very curious. Always enjoyed the money behind sports, it’s fascinating shite, have a buddy that works at Fox and I’m always picking his brain about it.

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:38 am to
I wasn’t laughing at you bruv

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 11:06 am to
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bruv


What’s this?
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:00 pm to
He’s just reminding us that he lived in England or something
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 1:06 pm to
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Those two dudes hold the water for MLS no matter what

You have no room to criticize when you do the exact opposite

You may hate MLS but we have a domestic league that is now stable and producing talent for our national team at unprecedented rates, after prior iterations went bankrupt and failed. But nah we gotta shite on it because we don’t do it exactly like Europe does.
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