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re: Shams: Pels have received calls about JJ and Lonzo and are open to trading them

Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5824 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:25 pm to
My trade:

Warriors get Ball, Melli, & 2 future 2nds

Pels get Oubre, Ojeleye, and future Celtics 1st

Celtics get JJ

I think this may even create a trade exception for us that we can use to bring in Bjelica with another pick


Bledsoe / Kira
Oubre / NAW
Ingram / Hart / Ojeleye
Zion / Bjelica
Adams / Hayes

Creates some better roster balance but damn our D will go worse to atrocious

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118961 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Creates some better roster balance but damn our D will go worse to atrocious



Neat. Kira and Naw get minutes, we tank.

I’d trade Hart at the deadline too if we can.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
53048 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:28 pm to
You know oubre is a good defender right ?
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5824 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:30 pm to
Didn't realize his dRTG is 109 this year...interesting
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5824 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:32 pm to
Yeah, I love Hart but after this season not sure if he's a long term piece. I want him to be. He hustles but he's undersized. Maybe a contender will want him for a 2nd or expiring.

I do think this all opens up a ton of cap room next summer.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10760 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:35 pm to
Good to know that everyone in the building believes Ball is not in the plans for the 21/22 season. That's all the confirmation I need.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5136 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:36 pm to
How could you not lol. If so, everyone should be let go
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
15317 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:38 pm to
Wonder if there's some issues going on in the locker room.

Hart liked a tweet from Kendrick Perkins #freeJJRedick
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5824 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:40 pm to
Issues become a thing when you're losing...also become a thing when your PG is taking shots away from your best players.

It also may be a thing that they understand where they are and they respect JJ and want him to be in a situation where a title is a legit possibility.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5136 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:44 pm to
I know SVG is big on this whole accountability thing, but losing and constantly calling out players is a bad combo. Especially in this era
Posted by Dantheman504
N/A
Member since Jun 2013
4294 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:46 pm to
Rockets: Lonzo, Melli, who cares

Warriors: JJ, who cares

Pels: PJ Tucker, Oubre, who cares
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62057 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Wonder if there's some issues going on in the locker room.

Hart liked a tweet from Kendrick Perkins #freeJJRedick


I would imagine this road trip was both miserable and sobering and this team no longer has any delusions of grandeur. Freeing JJ is the right thing to do.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
53048 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

know SVG is big on this whole accountability thing, but losing and constantly calling out players is a bad combo. Especially in this era
hornets coach called out lamelo and said he won’t start because he turns the ball over too much rn. People praised him for that
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62057 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:52 pm to
Stan is doing exactly what he was brought in to do with the exception of not playing NAW/Kira enough. That is probably why it sounds like Lonzo/JJ and Bledsoe are all available. Stan didn't have any choice but to play Jaxson and he's grown to like him and Jaxson's gotten better as a player. Hopefully we're about to see the same thing happen for NAW and Kira.
Posted by NOLAbaby
CumTown
Member since Sep 2013
1758 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:53 pm to
i'd actually be really excited to see how Steph and Lonzo play together. Steph hasn't really played with many great passer/ball handler types (a 2ndary role Draymond has filled for them for years, also due to PnR possibilities). KD was a boon for sure. But as far as guard combos Steph/DeAngelo didn't work nor did Steph/Monta "Shots Up" Ellis, yet neither were as happy of passers as Lonzo. I think that's the selling point. Another guard who knows how to distribute the ball - something GSW just isn't getting from their wings or bench PGs. Also, Bazemore's been getting back to form making Oubre a little redundant. I'd be happy getting the NBA's sexiest man on the Pels.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5136 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 4:53 pm to
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't mind it one bit, but he is also talking about a rookie and is dealing with a dumbass dad running his mouth lol. That is a little different. Maybe its fine, I don't know, but things get a little testy when losing occurs. Especially losing streaks.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118961 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Hart liked a tweet from Kendrick Perkins #freeJJRedick


That’s not great.

And I fricking hate Kendrick Perkins
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
45870 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:05 pm to
Awesome officially tanking mode
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30493 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Stan is doing exactly what he was brought in to do with the exception of not playing NAW/Kira enough. That is probably why it sounds like Lonzo/JJ and Bledsoe are all available. Stan didn't have any choice but to play Jaxson and he's grown to like him and Jaxson's gotten better as a player. Hopefully we're about to see the same thing happen for NAW and Kira.



the logjam and drafting guards in back to back years, made it harder to deal with as well. Jaxson growing is promising, we can see potential again.

I'm all for moving JJ and Lonzo, but I feel like Bledsoe at his current cost is a bigger asset to us than trading him away just to give kira/NAW more time.

Bledsoe's numbers look good and a veteran presence is needed at the guard position. I imagine if you trade JJ and Lonzo, that's roughly 50 minutes you gotta re-distribute. Trading Bledsoe is another 30 (too much IMHO).

If we're saying 96 minutes total, your potential new breakdown could be:
NAW 28 MPG
Bledsoe 30 MPG
Kira 20 MPG
Hart 18 MPG as guard, 10 MPG as backup SF (28 MPG total).
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24971 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:21 pm to
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I’d trade Hart at the deadline too if we can.


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