Why is O focusing on NFL positional coaches with CFB experience?

Because O is a meathead and has it stuck in his head that NFL coaches are necessarily better than college coaches at being college coaches.

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Does O feel that his grand slam hire of Brady is the most efficient move for all coaching hires in modern CFB?

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Smells like this to me.

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his grand slam hire of Brady is the most efficient move for all coaching hires in modern CFB?

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Probably a combo of this as well as just calling former coaches (Carroll, Brady, etc) and seeing who they recommend.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the desire to interview Jones came after he called Aranda.

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Why do other elite programs seem to have no where near the struggles we’re having hiring a quality DC?

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Excellent question. Unfortunately, we’ll never have a public answer to this. Coaches aren’t going to trash another Coach or school. That’s career suicide if you plan on staying in the biz.

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Unfortunately, we’ll never have a public answer to this. Coaches aren’t going to trash another Coach or school. That’s career suicide if you plan on staying in the biz.

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“I prefer to stay in the North”

“I can’t get out of my contract”

“XXXX...”

It's a good question. I'm unsure of the answer. I don't like the model that much. Doesn't mean it won't work or can't be successful, but I think the chances of finding the best coach lies elsewhere. But the underlying reasoning of why this model I'm not clear on; couple of theories:

- The chances of an up & comer being on a NFL staff are higher than being on a CFB staff. Assumption is if good enough to make that jump, one of the +130 teams would have already plucked them.

- As mentioned above, it worked once with Brady so try it again on the defensive side. There might be something to this because coaches have a very very strong tendency to repeat what works simply because it worked without looking at the reason it worked. It's why some get stuck in a rut in playcalling, why some refuse to tweak things, why some get fixated on people when their results have diminished. It is a trait of coaches everywhere.

- (this is a positve one) We've seen Orgeron revamp and breathe new life into our analysis side of the game. One of the very first things he did, in fact the very first thing he did policy wise was shift time/resources from the practice field to film room. He's steadily reinforced that side of coaching ever since. By pulling from the NFL ranks he further reinforces that. NFL coaches by far (with some notable exceptions with certain schools, e.g. Bama) are very analytical in their approach. They have more experience with that side of coaching than your average college-only coach. What some refer to as replacing the whistle with the tablet. If that's the reason why he's using this model it is a good thing.

- This is a wing and a prayer... hoping plucking someone waiting for a promotion in the NFL and then giving them the full gig (DC) will result with them settling in and staying both with the Tigers and in the college ranks instead of heading back to the NFL. The reason this is probably not going to work is that if they leave the NFL where they were on track for the big job (e.g. Nielsen) but waiting and then they are wildly successful here, they will be re-plucked by the NFL. We will simply prove to NFL teams that they shouldn't have waitied.

Yep Joe Judge/Dan Campbell
Also have a bunch of position coaches getting hired to be OC/DC

I think our fanbase would be happier if we hired someone like Muschamp

tRant: We want a young up-and-comer!

Also tRant: We want someone with a long track record!

This board is bi-polar. Just let the process play out.

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How many NFL position coaches DON’T have college football experience?

I would think most do.

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very true. But the question posed is why we are targeting them after they've moved on to the NFL and not from CFB ranks.

Yes, if you pull someone from the NFL they are highly likely to have CFB experience.

But the model seems to be because the last couple of names we've heard in Nielsen and Jones/Zimmer/Patterson indicate that we're limiting it to those in the NFL currently.

While that's probably a bad assumption that LSU is limiting it to just that, IF it is a good assumption, why do that was OP's question.

Frankly, IF they are doing that I don't agree with it all. There's no reason in any of the responses, including my own above, that are exclusive to the NFL.

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But the question posed is why we are targeting them after they've moved on to the NFL and not from CFB ranks.

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exactly. the biggest issue with NFL guys is they are NFL guys. Brady couldn't get out of college fast enough

even RN went to a lateral move for less money to be an NFL guy. hell, even a mediocre coach like tosh lupoi is trying to live that NFL dream (when he's mediocre as a coach, terrible as a coordinator, and whose primary value in college was recruiting)

if O is trying to combat the carousel, dipping into the NFL ranks seems to be very risky on that level