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History: French Revolution
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:41 pm
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
- officials that do anything they want
- no real representation
- constant lies being told to the populous
- censorship
Are there any dangers that we might face something like it in the future?
If so, how can it be avoided?
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
- officials that do anything they want
- no real representation
- constant lies being told to the populous
- censorship
Are there any dangers that we might face something like it in the future?
If so, how can it be avoided?
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:52 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We have the conditions that have led to every revolution or enslavement.
Hopefully we will have a mostly peaceful revolution.
Hopefully we will have a mostly peaceful revolution.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:56 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Only none violent solutions or ideas, please.
TEXIT!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:57 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We can work to save it or we can burn it down.
I prefer the former. The second option leads to no USA. The likelihood of success after the latter is small.
I prefer the former. The second option leads to no USA. The likelihood of success after the latter is small.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:59 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We do not yet recognize our enemy.
The politicians are the enforcers for our enemy but the real enemies are the Media and Corporate Oligarchs who both tell the politicians what to do and think.
I can also accept that China tells the media what to do and the Oligarchy feels it will prosper under Global Chinese rule.
The politicians are the enforcers for our enemy but the real enemies are the Media and Corporate Oligarchs who both tell the politicians what to do and think.
I can also accept that China tells the media what to do and the Oligarchy feels it will prosper under Global Chinese rule.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:59 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We see a lot of symptoms, but no. The economic conditions are nowhere near dire end for the ordinary people to get involved yet. In most bloody revolutions that collapse long-standing authoritarian governments, the motivation is hunger. Histronics and peaceful protests are always a part of political discourse by the fringe and the political junkies, but regular people don’t start shooting folks or chopping off heads unless they get to the point where they see their odds of being able to feed themselves and their families are better with drastic action verses the status quo.
Under our current situation, a lot of people and businesses are struggling financially, but we have not yet near reached the hunger tipping point that results in regular, non-political people to get involved trying to topple regimes to get food.
Under our current situation, a lot of people and businesses are struggling financially, but we have not yet near reached the hunger tipping point that results in regular, non-political people to get involved trying to topple regimes to get food.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:00 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We basically also even have a Committee of Public Safety.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:04 pm to GhostOfFreedom
The failure of the revolution was about 'what do we do now?' that caused major infighting. We're gonna have some of that with the Dems. They were totally committed to overthrowing the King. Now, they are going to fight themselves about who is really in charge.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:13 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
I like the solution where Robespierre tried to kill himself but failed so they tied his jaw together so they could drag him to the guillotine and chop off his head.
Is that too violent?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:14 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
Not really
The first and Second Estate in France paid no taxes and were granted a privileged life under French law. The Third Estate - which was 97% of the population - paid all the taxes and held only 60% of the land.
In the US, the rich pay all the taxes. Not the other way around.
Not to mention, the Third Estate just literally voted the Second Estate back into office. In France, in 1789, the common people loathed the nobility. In the US, the commoners worship the nobility.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:17 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Our majority out of shape, lazy citizens would celebrate being told "let them eat cake".
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:48 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
We GoT tO vOtE foR da RePuBLiCaNs iN 2022! We'Ll GeT eM nExT tImE! ThEy CaNt ChEaT TwIcE CuZ tHeY kNoW wE'rE oNtO eM!
Start by petitioning your local Sheriff and local government, get them on your side and establish Sanctuary Towns
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:50 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Well they did a little better job of storming the bastille than we did.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:54 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
No starving population but a bunch of fat entitled people.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:16 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We have every one of those plus some. And those elected officials in DC know it. That is why Jan 6th scared the shite out of them! They are coming after conservative, red state America with a vengeance.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:20 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:
Do we have any of the same conditions that led to that horrific revolution?
- officials that do anything they want
- no real representation
- constant lies being told to the populous
- censorship
This gets you a "D-" on the question of the causes of the French revolution. The big issue in pre-revolution France were:
- that the second estate and the clergy didn't pay taxes at all - the poor and the bourgeoisie paid for everything.
- a bad famine and a lack of government support to the people starving as a result
- resentfulness of paying for the lifestyle upkeep of the crown.
Which is all to say, if you want to argue for overthrowing the United States government, you probably want to look to one of the many, many, many other revolutions throughout history for a better analogue.
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If so, how can it be avoided?
Only non-violent solutions or ideas, please. I don't want this thread pulled.
Some conservative ideas are pretty popular in many parts of the US. Don't nominate a narcissistic sociopath next time and I'm sure you'll guys will be fine.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:10 pm to GhostOfFreedom
We have one condition they didn’t: pussies
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:45 am to GhostOfFreedom
Time to throw some tea in the water baby.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:48 am to GhostOfFreedom
Nancy Pelosi is a career public servant worth hundreds of millions. She was on TV brazenly interviewed in front of her $40k refrigerators stocked with ice cream that cost more than many people make all week.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:53 am to GhostOfFreedom
I find a lot more similarities with the Spanish Civil War.
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