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re: What's the perfect Hunting Rifle Scope in your opinion?

Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:39 am to
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I may be wrong, but in my mind I feel the larger tube gathers more light wich is important to me


You’re wrong.

Here is a good explanation as to why you are wrong. And for purposes of clarity “aged eyes” in the following explanation means most people above the age of forty or so.

4. Light Transmission and Eye Relief Scopes don't gather light, as most people think, although the term "light gathering ability" has become accepted jargon. Scopes transmit available light through the lenses to your eye, always losing a bit in the process. The best a scope can hope to offer in light transmission is about a theoretical 98%, which only the very finest (read expensive) scopes can hope to approach. Anything above 95% is considered great, and most scopes are around 90%, give or take a bit. You have to take light transmission figures with a grain of salt. Manufacturers measure light transmission differently, sometimes for specific wavelengths to boost their numbers. The more magnification you have, the less light you get to your eyepiece. The larger the objective lens, the more you get through your eyepiece. Aged eyes may dilate to only about four millimeters. Younger eyes may open up to seven millimeters and even more. An exit pupil much larger than your eye can use is wasted. Like drinking out of a fire hose. The small circle of light that appears in the eyepiece when you hold a scope at arm's length is called an exit pupil. Here's an interesting experiment to help explain it. Take a variable scope, put it at its lowest power, and hold it at arms length. See the circle of light in the ocular lens? That is the exit pupil. The diameter of it in millimeters is the exit pupil size. Now turn the scope up to its highest power and try it again. See how much smaller it gets? Imagine if you are using this scope during poor lighting conditions as common in hunting situations, like dawn or dusk. How small and dark will that exit pupil be? How well do you think you'll be able to see through that tiny circle of light? A formula for exit pupil is as follows: Divide the objective lens size in millimeters by the magnification. Example: if your 3-9X40 scope is set at 3X, 40 divided by 3 equals 13.3 millimeters, which is large enough for almost all low light applications. If your scope is set at 9X, 40 divided by 9 equals 4.44 millimeters. The difference in available light from the larger exit pupil is significant. The larger the exit pupil, the less critical the position of your head in relation to the scope is, also. The distance that your eye must be to the ocular lens to get a full, clear picture is called eye relief. Lower powered scopes will have a larger range of distance available for a full view. Higher powered scopes are sometimes very critical in relation to the centering of your eye through the middle of the tube, and the distance your eye must be from the ocular lens. Sometimes there is only a half inch closer or farther you may be to see the whole available view.

Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3298 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:40 am to
Kinda like the Honda 300. One of the best of all times!
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13509 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:41 am to
I like a 4-12x 40-44

I have my dads old zeiss 3-12x56 and that thing is absurd. It’s like a fricking telescope on the gun which makes free hand shots more difficult.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:43 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5751 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:42 am to
3-12x by 40 or 44

The 50s get bulky.

Also depends on what rifle you’re putting them on.
My 30-30 has a fixed 4x
38-55 has a 2-7x
257 WBY a 3.5-10x
300 WBY a 4-16x

High magnification can be helpful identifying does, button bucks, etc
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7827 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:46 am to
Swarovski z8i is the best hunting scope. The magnification depends on you.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1263 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:20 am to
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I have about 10 Leupold VX-3i 3.5x10x40 duplex scopes on different rifles. It's my go to scope for any situation hunting big game. Don't think I have shot anything at higher than 3.5 magnification. Only set it higher when I sight it in at the range.

It's the best bang for the buck in my opinion, you can pick it up for 400$ any day of the week. Good eye relief, good clarity, good low-light capability.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 10:40 am
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1567 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:26 am to
In Louisiana? A Swaro z3 3-10 x 42
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8829 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:52 am to
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Swarovski z8i is the best hunting scope. The magnification depends on you.

OP stated he is looking for the perfect hunting scope based on his budget of $1000 or less. Why would you recommend a $3500+ rifle scope ?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6955 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:01 am to
For me; deer hunting 3-9x40 (7mm, 7mm-08, .308, .30-06 etc), varmint 8-32x50 (.22-250 .17HMR etc)
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:00 am
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7827 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

OP stated he is looking for the perfect hunting scope based on his budget of $1000 or less. Why would you recommend a $3500+ rifle scope ?


Because when I read it there was no price.
Posted by Bigsampson
Fort Worth
Member since Apr 2017
385 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 4:38 pm to
Exactly.
Been using a Ziess 4x14 for years, also a Vortex Razor HD 3x18. That I really like. I grew up using 3x9 scopes. Don’t have to use the extra horsepower, but it is really nice to have sometimes.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91238 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:29 pm to
Scopes are cheating. Iron sights only
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1320 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:43 pm to
I used to think I needed more mag, but eventually realized I was just carrying extra weight and started scaling back.

That said, it really depends on what you do most. If I mostly hunted on pipelines whit a short walk to the stand then I’d be more inclined to go for a 4-16 or maybe a little more. If I walked a ton then I’d prioritize weight and probably go 2-8 or similar.

I do a mix, in 1.5 days if hunting this weekend I probably spent 6 hours in my stand and about the same hiking. Currently my main deer rifle has a VX6 2-12 and I have yet to wish it went further in either direction. I would bet that I make 90% of my shots Outside of the range with the dial between 4 and 6.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8418 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:02 pm to
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3-9x40


Highest quality glass in this set up is all you need.
Posted by Manatee
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
415 posts
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:47 pm to
Trijicon 3x9 x 40. Very bright with lighted reticle and very durable. Around $800.
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