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Left says right is nazi, right says left is nazi
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:33 am
Any real nazis here that can guide me to understanding who the real hitlers are?
Please state your credentials
Please state your credentials
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:34 am to fareplay
The moment you bring up Hitler or Nazi’s you have lost the argument.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:34 am to fareplay
Goal posts are only allowed to be moved by CNN and our overlords in social media blue check land.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:36 am to fareplay
Which one wants to ban free speech, disarm you, and keep you locked in your home? Which one is trying to identify supporters of their opponents for future persecution? Which one funds social advocacy groups tasked with “canceling” people they don’t like? Which one uses hateful rhetoric when describing supporters of their opponents (such as a deplorable or a menace)? Which one is most closely aligned with the socialist German worker’s party?
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:36 am to member12
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Which one wants to ban free speech, disarm you, and keep you locked in your home?
Bingo
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:37 am to fareplay
Just pay attention to who is enacting fascist style policy, ideas, and opinions. I can assure you it doesn't reside on the right.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:37 am to member12
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Which one wants to ban free speech, disarm you, and keep you locked in your home?
Nailed it.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:37 am to fareplay
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According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure. R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.
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But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.
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According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure. R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.
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But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.
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Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:37 am to fareplay
One has actual evidence to back the assertion.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:37 am to fareplay
I'm starting to think the worst thing about the 3rd Reich is that it has created a perpetual political boogieman that refuses to die.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:38 am to fareplay
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who the real hitlers are?
Anyone I don't like.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:38 am to fareplay
Holy Spirit gives discernment. You need a close relationship with the Lord to see things the correct way. The Bible says because they love not the truth, God will send them a strong delusion.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:40 am to fareplay
NAZI’s are socialists. Socialists are on the Left. It’s not really a debate.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:40 am to fareplay
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Left says right is nazi, right says left is nazi
both can not be true
so you look for signs of government over-reach
Democrats take 8 months, 6000 pages, billions in foriegn aid, for stimulus bill
but can impeach a sitting president in just 2 days, with 7 days left in his term
Trump tries to build a wall to ensure legal entry into our country
Hilter, destroyed walls so he could concur other countries
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:41 am to fareplay
the techniques of totalitarians are not unique to Nazis,
I guess that example is the most popular one due to decades of media, books and hollywood movies.
I guess that example is the most popular one due to decades of media, books and hollywood movies.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:42 am to member12
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Which one wants to ban free speech, disarm you, and keep you locked in your home? Which one is trying to identify supporters of their opponents for future persecution? Which one funds social advocacy groups tasked with “canceling” people they don’t like? Which one is most closely aligned with the socialist German worker’s party?
If you add --
- which one engages in massive f*cking voter fraud with no ID, no opposition allowed in while ballots are added/counted, and absolutely no f*cking accountability in order to rig elections
-- uses what is essentially a state-run media to propagandize all the news to make sure that any bad news is hidden from the public and never investigated while engaging in what can best be described as deceptive editing to report their "good news"
You'd would pretty much sum it up.
I love debating liberals. However, one of the first questions I'll ask them is whether they consider the mainstream media (CBS, ABC, NBC, WaPo, NYT, etc) to be biased.
If they say NO, I tell them that it's just not worth my time to debate them because they are nothing more than an ignorant sheep and they clearly live in FantasyF*ckingLand and are completely f*cking misinformed.
This post was edited on 1/14/21 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:45 am to MMauler
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If you add -- which one engages in massive f*cking voter fraud with no ID, no opposition allowed in while ballots are added/counted, and absolutely no f*cking accountability in order to rig elections -- you'd pretty much sum it up.
I don’t think the Nazis pulled off widespread voter fraud, but maybe my memory of history class is fading.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:46 am to fareplay
The term right wing and conservative are the most mis represented term in the englisb language right now. Modern 21st century conservatism is the furthest thing from a Nazi you can get.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:48 am to fareplay
Right are Nazis, Left are Commies.
Posted on 1/14/21 at 10:48 am to CptRusty
Nationalistic fascism (as modernly defined) originated in Italy and spread to Germany, Spain, etc. Germany expanded upon the basic ideals to include more government centered control and direction.
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