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re: US executes first woman since 1953: a monster named Lisa Montgomery
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:16 am to ksayetiger
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:16 am to ksayetiger
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there have been 14 women since 2000 executed in the U.S. in state systems
feminist trailblazers!
We can murder people every bit as horribly as men!
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:50 am to BHM
quote:and vote in the next Presidential Election
She will probably get the next one as well.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I wonder if this idiot thinks 900,000 abortions a year (includes females) is barbaric and is ashamed of the US for these actions...
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:04 am to ksayetiger
Yeah I can't cheer this. We need to get away from capital punishment.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:39 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The woman committed a heinous crime and there are multiple victims of that action who have suffered unimaginable agony. However, Montgomery is the product of a society which cares NOTHING about the welfare of children. She was subjected to acts as a child that would be unthinkable in a sick, twisted novel. Gang raped repeatedly from the age of 4 by groups of her step father's "friends" including the step father. Pimped out as a prostitute between the age of 5 and 18 by her mother who also thought proper punishment for unruly children included things like stabbing the family dog to death in front of the kids and chaining the kids nude in the yard in the winter for days on end when they misbehaved. Her mother also sold her several times, apparently.
I do not support the death penalty as it is applied without rhyme or reason and it kills innocent people all to often. There is no doubt of her guilt but when society fails in such a catastrophic manner we should do the right thing and curb our desire for justice and allow some compassion. This woman belonged in an asylum...she was never going to be a member of society and not be a problem....but given her nightmarish life at the hands of people we as humans have to have early in life to protect and nurture us is it too much to ask not to throw her away like so much rubbish?
I do not support the death penalty as it is applied without rhyme or reason and it kills innocent people all to often. There is no doubt of her guilt but when society fails in such a catastrophic manner we should do the right thing and curb our desire for justice and allow some compassion. This woman belonged in an asylum...she was never going to be a member of society and not be a problem....but given her nightmarish life at the hands of people we as humans have to have early in life to protect and nurture us is it too much to ask not to throw her away like so much rubbish?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:46 am to LSU Mandalorian
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Yes you should lol. WTF else would you do with them? We need way more capital punishment for people who commit unforgivable crimes and no more of this “moral” injection shite either. A hanging is just as humane. My only reservations would be convicting an innocent but to be honest forensic technology is so advanced these days that you can’t really screw someone over through eyewitness testimony anymore.
The hell you can't...if the state is footing the bill for their defense and their prosecution and the revenue is based on their conviction rate it is entirely possible to convict an innocent person based on snitches and eye witness testimony even when the state possesses forensic evidence PROVING the accused is not guilty. Once convicted that person is then charged with overcoming the prejudice Judges who are also part of the prosecuting economy and juries who automatically assume the system works most of the time and the accused must be guilty.
The fact that many people have been exonerated of the capital crimes they were convicted of is all that is needed to know the system is seriously flawed and should be stopped immediately.
And at what point do we start killing the mentally ill??? When they first suffer from the trauma that drives many of them insane? In this case the woman would have been executed at the age of 4.....a society is judged by the way it treats the least capable among us to defend themselves.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:55 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why was she able to stay in a federal prison?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:59 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
What was the method was it the chair I love the chair what do yo tell a mental paitent what you are doing?
You are going to see Santa
Now go sit in Santa’s lap
You are going to see Santa
Now go sit in Santa’s lap
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 7:02 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:06 am to rumination
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What determines federal vs state in these executions?
She took the baby across state lines... that probably made it a Federal case.
I remember this from the No One Saw A Thing documentary about Skidmore, Missouri. Lots of killing for such a small town.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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With Wednesday's lethal injection, the Trump administration has put 11 people to death over the past seven months, amounting to the most executions in a presidential lame-duck period in more than 130 years.
NBC News =
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mentally incompetent people
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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We shouldn’t be killing mentally incompetent people
That’s not why she got executed. Plenty of mentally incompetent people in DC.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:33 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
frick them
its real simple, is she a threat to society now and in the future...apparently that answer is yes.
Is her mental disorder treatable? apparently the answer is no.
If she is not treatable, is a threat if ever released and then committed a terrible crime like this.....well kill her. No need to cost the tax payers money.
**this is me assuming there was overwhelming evidence, she was found with the baby, and confessed to this**
in general I do not support the government executing anyone as I dont trust the government to not plant evidence as they have earned that trust.
its real simple, is she a threat to society now and in the future...apparently that answer is yes.
Is her mental disorder treatable? apparently the answer is no.
If she is not treatable, is a threat if ever released and then committed a terrible crime like this.....well kill her. No need to cost the tax payers money.
**this is me assuming there was overwhelming evidence, she was found with the baby, and confessed to this**
in general I do not support the government executing anyone as I dont trust the government to not plant evidence as they have earned that trust.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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She cut a woman's baby out of her womb before murdering her and presenting the child as her own.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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LB
@beyondreasdoubt
I’m just gutted.
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She cut a woman's baby out of her womb before murdering her and presenting the child as her own. The victim, Bobbie Jo Stinnett, was 23.
Appropo
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:37 am to lsu777
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If she is not treatable, is a threat if ever released and then committed a terrible crime like this.....well kill her. No need to cost the tax payers money.
study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less
Wait. What?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:41 am to LSUBoo
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I remember this from the No One Saw A Thing documentary about Skidmore, Missouri. Lots of killing for such a small town.
Don't let the name fool you, it's a pretty shitty little town.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:41 am to BHM
The cut the baby out thing happened in Livingston parish about 10 years ago too. My mom was a nurse and took care of the mother. The infant died, mother lived.
The guilty man was supposedly on “bath salts’ back when those where a thing. My mom still says it was the most emotionally difficult patient case she ever had. Terrible for the mother that happened to.
The guilty man was supposedly on “bath salts’ back when those where a thing. My mom still says it was the most emotionally difficult patient case she ever had. Terrible for the mother that happened to.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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study after study shows that if we just leave them in jail it ends up costing less
well then, should have left her arse there then. Do you have any links to those studies, would like to read them.
if true, another reason why we shouldnt do capital punishement.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:49 am to supadave3
A large number of people who love the death penalty also don’t trust the govt to run an election
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