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How is Alabama so much more talented than other top recruiting CFB teams?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:29 pm
Ohio State, Georgia and even USC until a couple yrs ago recruit right there with them , and even beat them in some years in the rankings, yet Alabama looks like they have twice the talent as those other top recruiting teams.
Alabama recruiting Rankings over last 4 yrs:
2017 - #1
2018 - #5
2019 - #1
2020- #2
Avg 4 year class of 2.25.
Obviously incredible, but they're not getting the #1 class every single year like they were 5-10 yrs ago.
Oh State got blown off the field tonight with a 4 year avg class of 5.75 and Georgia gets taken to the woodshed by them with this year with a BETTER 4 year avg class of 1.75.
Are the other coaches that much worse with essentially the same level of talent?
Alabama recruiting Rankings over last 4 yrs:
2017 - #1
2018 - #5
2019 - #1
2020- #2
Avg 4 year class of 2.25.
Obviously incredible, but they're not getting the #1 class every single year like they were 5-10 yrs ago.
Oh State got blown off the field tonight with a 4 year avg class of 5.75 and Georgia gets taken to the woodshed by them with this year with a BETTER 4 year avg class of 1.75.
Are the other coaches that much worse with essentially the same level of talent?
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Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:30 pm to Jack Ruby
they have a pretty good coach
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:30 pm to Jack Ruby
It's not just rankings. Saban is amazing at developing these players
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:31 pm to Jack Ruby
2017 recruiting class was the best of all time and it’s not even that close.
Combine it with Jalen Hurts -> Tua -> Mac and throw in Nick Saban and there you go.
Combine it with Jalen Hurts -> Tua -> Mac and throw in Nick Saban and there you go.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:32 pm to Jack Ruby
Georgia's problem was obviously QB play. The other thing is that Alabama's super talented players wait their turn instead of transfer out at the first sign of adversity. They build insane depth like this.
They also have a culture built to where guys want to stay for 4 years more often than they would at somewhere like Georgia, where damn near every draft eligible player runs to the NFL the first chance they get.
They also have a culture built to where guys want to stay for 4 years more often than they would at somewhere like Georgia, where damn near every draft eligible player runs to the NFL the first chance they get.
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:33 pm to Jack Ruby
I'd like to see a post season analysis of NFL players on Alabama 3 years after each season. I'd be pretty surprised if they're not #1 there on a rolling average, and certainly #1 3 years post championship seasons.
They also found a way to get an all-world WR play 4 seasons. That's one of the things they seem to do best.
They also found a way to get an all-world WR play 4 seasons. That's one of the things they seem to do best.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:33 pm to VADawg
And why are they waiting and not transferring out? Is the money so good they can't leave?
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:34 pm to Jack Ruby
It's not just the recruiting, it's being able to retain those guys every single year. Keeping a guys like Smith and Harris for 4 years is ridiculous. No one else has figured that part out yet.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:34 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
Are the other coaches that much worse with essentially the same level of talent?
First problem here is you're taking the rankings of keyboard scouts as gospel. Barton Simmons and co. had Mac Jones as a 3*, several receivers rated higher than Devonta Smith, Christian BArmore outside the top 100, etc.
Use your eyes to judge talent, not what some website tells you about how good a kid was when he was 17. OSU got blown off the field because Alabama had a lot more talent than they did. That's not to say that the talent wasn't equal when these kids were 17, developing plays a large part, but recruiting rankings are a a footnote, not the be all end all. If those guys were that great at it they'd be getting paid millions to GM an NFL franchise
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:36 pm to Jack Ruby
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And why are they waiting and not transferring out? Is the money so good they can't leave?
That's gotta be it. The amazing part to me is that bama has coaches leave every year, and players transfer every year, and somehow nobody blows the whistle on the whole operation
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:36 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
And why are they waiting and not transferring out? Is the money so good they can't leave?
I think it's the culture. Clemson is the same way.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:Well. History has shown they're pretty fricking accurate.
Use your eyes to judge talent, not what some website tells you about how good a kid was when he was 17.
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:48 pm to Jack Ruby
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USC until a couple yrs ago
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:54 pm to castorinho
quote:
History has shown they're pretty fricking accurate.
Did you think Ohio State had equal talent to bama tonight when there were 22 dudes on the field?
Smith was like the 8th or 9th best player in the stadium tonight according to them. Yea, they are generally accurate. I'm not saying they aren't, I'm saying don't use "recruiting rankings" to tell you how talented a guy is when he's in his 3rd or 4th year of college
This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:58 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
They are generally accurate when using them to predict NFL drafts as well. They are pretty amazingly accurate considering the number of prospects in high school football
Posted on 1/11/21 at 11:58 pm to Jack Ruby
Did you just see Saban’s interviews?
He’s the answer.
And the more he gets soft the better he’s gonna be in this era.
He’s the answer.
And the more he gets soft the better he’s gonna be in this era.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:00 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:other programs needed him to be stubborn and slow to adapt. That didn't happen.
Did you just see Saban’s interviews?
He’s the answer.
And the more he gets soft the better he’s gonna be in this era.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:01 am to castorinho
quote:precisely
other programs needed him to be stubborn and slow to adapt. That didn't happen.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:05 am to Jack Ruby
Great talent. Amazing development. Decent gameday coach. It’s not too hard to see why they’re the best right now with Saban
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