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Should Dolphins try to draft another QB this year?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:29 pm
Big yikes on current one.
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:31 pm to okietiger
I thought Tua had a great arm in college. Was I not paying attention or is he just scared in the NFL?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:31 pm to okietiger
I'm sure Tua will be better than he looks so far but the craziest thing to me is how little he looks.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:32 pm to okietiger
Yes
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:35 pm to okietiger
He looks horrible.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:38 pm to okietiger
Yes!! Tua isn’t that dude. Shameful he was picked before Herbert
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:39 pm to okietiger
The only scenario that the Dolphins should consider taking a QB in the first round is if Wilson falls to the 18th overall pick. Drafting /moving up to take Fields or Wilson with a top 3 overall pick after drafting a QB in the top 5 the previous year would be borderline retarded and the sign of a very dysfunctional organization.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:42 pm to okietiger
I don't remember if I heard it through another poster on here, during a broadcast, or somewhere else, but Tua waits for WRs to be Alabama open (i.e. wide open) and not NFL open.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:42 pm to okietiger
QUICK!
People mad that Alabama is good get in here!
Give your worst Tua opinions.
People mad that Alabama is good get in here!
Give your worst Tua opinions.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:42 pm to okietiger
PFF Article
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It's too early to write off Tua Tagovailoa, but the Miami Dolphins should still draft a top quarterback
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When we run simulations for career outcomes for Tagovailoa and the No. 3 pick together, we see that chance that either ends up a 50th percentile franchise quarterback rises to 55% from 32% with Tagovailoa alone. And the chance that a truly elite 75th percentile outcome occurs, like Tony Romo or Andrew Luck, more than doubles to 21% from 10%. There’s even a material chance that both quarterbacks hit at least the 50th percentile, leaving the Dolphins with a trade asset down the road potentially worth more than the bounty they could have received for trading out of the No. 3 pick.
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Implementing this dual-quarterback approach won’t be easy, but that shouldn't be enough to stop the Dolphins from maximizing their chance to fill the most critical role in football. Teams don’t often have the opportunity to draft legitimate top QB prospects, and currently having a question mark at the position from the last draft isn't a good reason to pass on doing so. The Dolphins are playoff competitive with mediocre quarterback play this season, and their ability to max out wins with the roster will primarily be determined by locking in the highest possible level of play at the position. That’s why they shouldn’t hesitate to turn in the card for a top quarterback prospect if the opportunity presents itself in the 2021 draft.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 6:44 pm to okietiger
Yes. They are playing with house money with the Texans pick and Tua isn’t good.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:13 pm to okietiger
Yes. Looks like a halfling. Plays like a halfling.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:14 pm to okietiger
Tua was never going to be anything but a bust, wasted draft pick
Posted on 1/3/21 at 7:17 pm to okietiger
quote:
Big yikes on current one.
This guy thought LSU would be good this year. He also thought they didn’t have massive problems.
He was oblivious to LSU being a dumpster fire.
But LSU is a dumpster fire.
And the miami dolphins might have drafted the wrong QB.
LSU fans are ****s.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 5:50 am to okietiger
No. Gotta give it at least one more year. Draft that big LT to put in front of him and see what happens.
Saying that, I said it while he was at Bama that I didn't think he'd cut it in the NFL, due to size and the fact he can't see the whole field. We'll see what happens.
Saying that, I said it while he was at Bama that I didn't think he'd cut it in the NFL, due to size and the fact he can't see the whole field. We'll see what happens.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 5:54 am
Posted on 1/4/21 at 7:37 am to okietiger
I think they should. And it isn't necessarily because I think it is time to give up on Tua.
This is a QB's league. Dolphins are in a prime window to contend for a title here with young talent and a plethora of draft picks. All of that is for naught if you don't have the QB. Tua hasn't shown anything in the NFL that should lead Miami to believe he can be a good to elite NFL QB. I will reiterate that it is early and he still very well could improve and be that. But we also live in an era where you can kind of judge QB's after a year or so now - we saw Herbert, Burrow, and Hurts all show enough as rookies to have their teams feeling confident in them moving forward. We didn't see that with Tua.
So I think you take a QB if a guy you like is there, but you don't need to reach for one. If the Dolphins like Fields (for example) and he falls in their lap, take him. Have a QB competition, and you make your decision on who you want to roll with going forward. You can likely trade Fields or Tua for a very high 2022 pick - you don't lose all that much. Drafting QB's is a crap shoot but at the same time, a necessity to becoming a contender - so giving yourself another chance at one is a really good idea imo and the downside isn't even that big - basically punt a year on a draft pick by trading a QB for a 2022 draft pick which could still be a first rounder. Rosen fetched a 2nd, and Tua and Fields are better prospects than he was. I think you could get a 1st for either.
This is a QB's league. Dolphins are in a prime window to contend for a title here with young talent and a plethora of draft picks. All of that is for naught if you don't have the QB. Tua hasn't shown anything in the NFL that should lead Miami to believe he can be a good to elite NFL QB. I will reiterate that it is early and he still very well could improve and be that. But we also live in an era where you can kind of judge QB's after a year or so now - we saw Herbert, Burrow, and Hurts all show enough as rookies to have their teams feeling confident in them moving forward. We didn't see that with Tua.
So I think you take a QB if a guy you like is there, but you don't need to reach for one. If the Dolphins like Fields (for example) and he falls in their lap, take him. Have a QB competition, and you make your decision on who you want to roll with going forward. You can likely trade Fields or Tua for a very high 2022 pick - you don't lose all that much. Drafting QB's is a crap shoot but at the same time, a necessity to becoming a contender - so giving yourself another chance at one is a really good idea imo and the downside isn't even that big - basically punt a year on a draft pick by trading a QB for a 2022 draft pick which could still be a first rounder. Rosen fetched a 2nd, and Tua and Fields are better prospects than he was. I think you could get a 1st for either.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 8:06 am to okietiger
Burrow hadn’t even started a game yet at the age Tua is at the moment. Maybe pump the brakes a bit before throwing him out.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:05 am to okietiger
Tua by no means has been good at all, but he has zero help around him. OL, RBs, WRs, they all suck. Give him some talent around him I think he'll be fine.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:09 am to okietiger
You cannot give up on a 1st rD player regardless of position after 1 year. They are worth too much in a salary cap league.
That said, I’d move on after next year if he doesn’t show improvement.
That said, I’d move on after next year if he doesn’t show improvement.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:08 am to okietiger
There were people on this board saying he was better than Burrow. Burrow would have at least ten wins on the Dolphins and that is without Fitzpatrick bailing him out.
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