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re: 1 out of every 800 south Dakotians has perished from China flu
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:25 am to pigskinGod
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:25 am to pigskinGod
quote:
1 in 80 wouldnt even be enough to justify these shutdowns
Lord have mercy. What ratio would justify it?
1.25% of the population dying is a huge number
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:42 am to ChuckM
quote:
Twitter has got to be the largest collection of dumbasses across all types of social media.
The worst tech invention of all time
Posted on 12/7/20 at 7:46 am to 3nOut
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I can assure you they aren’t. Not that it hasn’t affected them, but they’re more conservative and people of faith.
Outside of progressive white women, most people of faith have been a bit less fearful of the virus. This world isn’t the end for them.
My in-laws are farmers in West Texas and they said that they just didn’t care after May. They’d rather get it and die that spend their last years unable to see their grandchildren grow up or enjoy life.
Can’t disagree.
Amen
And god bless
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:23 am to Armymann50
quote:Yeah we all are. What do people have against preserving person-years of life?
THEY WERE GOING TO DIED EVEN WITH OUT COVID..
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:36 am to NoSaint
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Lord have mercy. What ratio would justify it?
1.25% of the population dying is a huge number
You realize that normal mortality is in the range of 1%, right? Tell us, how do 2020 deaths from all causes stack up against 2019 and 2018?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 8:51 am to Catahoula20LSU
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Don’t believe the numbers.
Only measurement of truth today is "Do I want to believe it"
Live free or die I guess
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:04 am to MoarKilometers
1/8 th of 1% and we advocate destruction of community and livelihoods. What is the supossed reward for all of this involuntary "sacrifice"?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:31 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Look at that curve trending down. South Dakota's governor must have really clamped down to make that happen.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:36 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Look at that curve trending down. South Dakota's governor must have really clamped down to make that happen.
And, oddly enough, it peaked before any of the other Midwestern states with harsher restrictions, with all of the states peaking within 6 days of each other.
Amazing how all that works, eh? Everyone at about the same time stops conforming to the "restrictions" to allow a surge, and then at about the same time everyone falls back in line with the "restrictions" to drop the peak. Mitigation works! Hahahaha.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:39 am to Korkstand
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What do people have against preserving person-years of life?
It’s not my responsibility to worry about someone else’s family
They are worried about me & my family
Maybe we should stop the anti fat shaming movement & promote the fact that being obese & unhealthy is what kills you
Maybe we should make people take responsibility for their health
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:45 am to Korkstand
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What do people have against preserving person-years of life?
I don't think many, but do the ends justify the means?
There are plenty of things we can legislate to preserve life, but the costs outweigh the benefit.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 9:51 am to rintintin
quote:I wasn't suggesting or advocating for any particular means, just curious why so many think that preserving the last few years of old peoples' lives are not an end worth considering.
I don't think many, but do the ends justify the means?
There are plenty of things we can legislate to preserve life, but the costs outweigh the benefit.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:03 am to Korkstand
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I wasn't suggesting or advocating for any particular means, just curious why so many think that preserving the last few years of old peoples' lives are not an end worth considering.
What's the point of preserving MAYBE 1-2 years of life, if they're "lucky," in "solitary confinement" in a nursing home? How is that more cruel than doing the best we can while living life as normal?
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:05 am to Korkstand
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I wasn't suggesting or advocating for any particular means, just curious why so many think that preserving the last few years of old peoples' lives are not an end worth considering.
Once again it’s not up to you or anyone else to decide for another person
My Grandpa is 94 years old & has been ready to go for a few years now
He is very open about it & we have accepted it
He is currently in a nursing home where he cannot see his family or friends
He is more than willing to take his chances with a virus if it means getting to see his kids & grandkids
So many people are dying without their family by their side, so many are giving up because they are being kept from the only thing that keeps them going
Their is also a large amount of guilt the family carries for not being there for their loved one along with the issues from not being able to say goodbye in a lot of cases
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:19 am to LSUJML
quote:Maybe not, but in a society there are rules that most of us agree are good for everyone to follow for the safety of others. Speed limits immediately come to mind, but there are many other rules that we follow because we are concerned about other peoples' families.
It’s not my responsibility to worry about someone else’s family
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:21 am to Sasquatch Smash
quote:I think that's for that person and their family to decide.
What's the point of preserving MAYBE 1-2 years of life, if they're "lucky," in "solitary confinement" in a nursing home?
quote:I'm all for living as normally as possible. I think shutting down businesses is stupid. I just wonder why some people are so anti-mask.
How is that more cruel than doing the best we can while living life as normal?
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
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I think that's for that person and their family to decide.
You're right...so why aren't we letting them decide?
quote:
I think shutting down businesses is stupid.
quote:
I just wonder why some people are so anti-mask.
Because they (homemade cloth masks) either don't work at all or provide little effect, and it has been made into an actual crime (some places) and a social sin to not wear one. And our anointed national heroes and "experts" couldn't make up their fricking minds about them, and have been wrong about so much.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
0.125%
Ummmm...thats actually very low as compaired to the others categories (i.e. cancer, heart disease, etc)
Ummmm...thats actually very low as compaired to the others categories (i.e. cancer, heart disease, etc)
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:30 am to LSUJML
quote:That same logic applies the other direction.
Once again it’s not up to you or anyone else to decide for another person
quote:Is it ok for you and your family to make the decision for other residents in the same nursing home?
My Grandpa is 94 years old & has been ready to go for a few years now
He is very open about it & we have accepted it
He is currently in a nursing home where he cannot see his family or friends
He is more than willing to take his chances with a virus if it means getting to see his kids & grandkids
quote:It's a bad situation all around, no doubt. It's just a tough call because there could be people in a nursing home with 3 or 4 years left, but through the negligence of others it could end right now. And maybe they weren't ready.
So many people are dying without their family by their side, so many are giving up because they are being kept from the only thing that keeps them going
Their is also a large amount of guilt the family carries for not being there for their loved one along with the issues from not being able to say goodbye in a lot of cases
I'm not trying to take away from the hardship people are going through, but it's not so cut and dry when the decisions you make can impact others.
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:32 am to CharlesLSU
quote:Cancer and heart disease sit at about 0.180% by the same metric.
0.125%
Ummmm...thats actually very low as compaired to the others categories (i.e. cancer, heart disease, etc)
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