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re: Jardin Gilbert CB

Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Keaux10
Grand Isle
Member since Feb 2019
1769 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:16 am to
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theOG
Of course you would say this, it's a good thing none of us are on the Lsu staff to chime in and tell them to "move on"
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68670 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:20 am to
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Byrd and Leigh are both going to OU. I’d move on.



God you OU fans love to let yourself down so much
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51137 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:28 am to
They're sticking to this photo like we are to ours



Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23445 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:30 am to
Looks like we found theOGs alter
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27353 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:37 am to
I think recruiting has completely changed and no one yet knows how to maneuver it or what the best strategies are just yet.

OL is the hardest position to project, so it's not a horrible idea to take more transfers, especially with instant eligibility now.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14554 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:48 am to
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That’s supremely disappointing if true. Our Oline is struggling and we have 1 Olineman committed. 2 in the entire class would be a massive mismanagement of the roster imo. Maybe you strike gold like Burrow but I doubt it. More likely than not it’ll be a Jonathan Giles, Darren Evans, Liam Shannon, is that CB from Stanford.

Damien Lewis was a homerun, but I agree we need to start winning more OL recruiting battles.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15321 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:49 am to
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Byrd and Leigh are both going to OU. I’d move on.

Gilbert was going to commit to OU


Go home, homer.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
15321 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 7:53 am to
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Looks like we found theOGs alter


Yep
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11950 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:31 am to
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Byrd and Leigh are both going to OU

Like Jacob Phillips did?
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
3424 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 8:53 am to
I like how you left out Damien Lewis who was a transfer and is now starting in the NFL. We have done well with grad transfers. Not all are misses and not all are hits. Similar to HS recruiting. I bet you were melting of Sophsher being a 5 star but he flopped.
Use your brain before you say is "supremely disappointing"
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:03 am to
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Damien Lewis who was a transfer

Lewis was a juco recruit, not a transfer.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32743 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:09 am to
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I think recruiting has completely changed and no one yet knows how to maneuver it or what the best strategies are just yet.

OL is the hardest position to project, so it's not a horrible idea to take more transfers, especially with instant eligibility now.
This makes no fricking sense at all.

What do you mean recruiting has changed and no one knows how to navigate it?

You need 4-5 olineman every class period. Explain to me what’s changed with that
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71073 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:25 am to
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What do you mean recruiting has changed and no one knows how to navigate it?


A never ending dead period and an inability to evaluate in person or hold camps.

Have you not been paying attention?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68670 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:36 am to
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You need 4-5 olineman every class period.


No, you dont. You play the numbers as you will with guys you expect to leave, etc. Just like you dont need the same exact of every position every cycle.

There's some situations where we might need to really look at getting 3 RB in a class. There's other situations where taking 1 is perfectly fine. Same for OL. There's situations where you want to sign 5-6 guys, there's other situations where 3 would be just fine. If we only lose 2 offensive linemen after this season, grabbing 5 guys seems pretty dumb.
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 9:37 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51137 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:41 am to
There seems to be a disconnect on the conversation being had
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3521 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:50 am to
4 ol would be the sweet spot in this class with what we have coming back IMO. We could get away with 3 but 1 or 2 is just not cutting it. We should not have to depend on some Harvard or sunbelt grad transfer to plug as an immediate starter because we cant manage a roster. OL and DL need to have a starting rotation of Jr's and Seniors every year with at least 2 extra Jr/Sr swing guys on the OL and 2 deep on the DL. In rare circumstances a 5star So may push for the starting role but that is extremely rare at those positions. As it stands now our DL is on track though we have seen attrition at that position however our OL needs to restock.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27353 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:51 am to

What has changed is the addition of the new instant transfer/eligibility rule which hasn't even completely gone into affect, along with the free year of eligibility players are receiving this year.

Sure, you still need linemen, but they may not be coming from high school.

Just as the graduate transfer rule changed recruiting, this will change it even more substantially.

And no one knows how to navigate it, because it's just now happening and the repercussions have not been felt yet at all the levels.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13339 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 9:58 am to
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You need 4-5 olineman every class period.
Hard FACT (channelling RickDaddy) people need to realize:

Saying we need 4-5 OL every class AND saying don't recruit any projects are contradictory.

There's not enough 4 and 5 star (how most judge "project"... just not me) OL to go around.

Almost no team not named Bama can meet both those requirements. And they do struggle to do it in some years.

Here's the overarching "strategy": Recruit that 5* OT like you would a 5* RB or QB. If you're going to pay the QB, pay the OT the same. If you are going to get hookers and blow for the RB, do the same for the OT. If you want to improve your OL recruiting, do away with the idea of "skill players" because OT is the right behind QB as far as difficulty to play, inability to evaluate well, and impact on the team.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71073 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Saying we need 4-5 OL every class AND saying don't recruit any projects are contradictory.


This is correct.

I would also say that if you're consistently taking 4-5 OL each year, your budget for projects could be higher. You would have more room to redshirt guys, to take guys that need to add weight (I'm not a fan of taking guys that need to drop weight unless they're incredible athletes, like Trai Turner).
Posted by Mathias5k
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2018
1867 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 10:12 am to
Ingram’s long term suspension and time away from the team coupled with the controversy lsu is currently facing means his draft stock will likely be very low. Unless he shows out to the point of being a first rounder at the combine then he is likely a day 3 selection
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