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re: 'Borat 2' Tomatometer - 89% and Spoilers Thread

Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:39 pm to
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Relevant at the box office is not the same as culturally relevant. I would say Borat had no effect on the culture of our nation whatsoever.


Dude, it's okay that you don't like Borat, but you're arguing something dumb. You're also arguing inconsistently. If you didn't think the box office mattered, you wouldn't have used it (idiotically) earlier to try to support your point.

More importantly, any chance you could drop the "humorless dolt who lacks self-awareness" bit until after you've had a chance to see the movie? This is a thread about how the movie is being received, but you (along with everyone) hasn't had that chance yet. Come back on Saturday to bitch about how a comedian is making fun of an idiot you like. At least then you can lie about having seen it.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7701 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:04 pm to
I thought it released today?

How come I can’t access it on Prime?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:06 pm to
Available Friday.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7701 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:08 pm to
Thanks. Couldn’t find that info anywhere on the Prime App.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Relevant at the box office is not the same as culturally relevant. I would say Borat had no effect on the culture of our nation whatsoever.



And I would say you are dead wrong.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66819 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:26 pm to
The first one seems real but idk how you don’t recognize Borat at this point.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27960 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:11 pm to
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The Spleen

Youre legit retarded, arent you?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29643 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:19 pm to
I watched Borat for the first time last week and was literally crying throughout most of the film it was so funny
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70511 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:50 pm to
Watching Borat for the first time is great. It is one of the least rewatchable movies I’ve ever seen though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50681 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 12:05 am to
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At least then you can lie about having seen it.


Nah. I won't watch.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 12:06 am
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 7:26 am to
Sacha is hilarious, but he also uses the Michael Moore school of editing. A lot of things in all his shows/movies are spliced together (quite amazingly) and totally out of context. He's a master at it. Can't wait to watch it.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:44 pm to
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It is one of the least rewatchable movies I’ve ever seen though.




I disagree. I re-watch it once a year or so and it's still hilarious. It no longer has the shock value, but still funny.


I actually think his Bruno movie is funnier.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30955 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:40 pm to
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oh, it's making fun of Trump and Republicans? Geeee, I wonder how the critics will respond to it


You could ask the same question with the same emoji about how TD will respond to it.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:40 pm to
No matter how embarrassing it could be watching spy boys and kids living with their parents destroy major cities will always take the cake
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:44 pm to
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No it wasn't.


Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76560 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:07 pm to
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The first one was a cultural phenomenon


Slow down, Clarence.

It was about as big a "cultural phenomenon" as "Get Out"

You got some memes, some articles, and a sequel. . .and then everyone stopped talking about it.

Cringe humor will never move the cultural compass, as can be seen by the abject void of imitation films.

A "Cultural Phenomenon" comedy would be movies like The Princess Bride, The Jerk, Blazing Saddles, Van Wilder, American Pie, Superbad, and such. ETA: American Graffiti.

Those movies changed the trajectory of Hollywood, and are still often quoted, parodied, and copied.

The entire Borat thing, while a really good movie, was just an expansion and furthering of the old radio/TV "man on the street" trope. It was executed well, but it wasn't groundbreaking or genre-defining.

The Jackass series is still the standard-bearer for amateurish cringe-humor, best I can tell.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:12 pm to
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You could ask the same question with the same emoji about how TD will respond to it.
Truth.

My concern is the execution of the sequel.

Listening to Sasha speak in recent times, it seems the movie was made to sway potential voters. Even the timing of the release screams intent.

I get a sense this will be less "jabs at general American cultural norms" as the first one was. . .and more of a "look at the evil Republicans and Trump supporters"

Maybe he can pull it off, but he has never been great at political theater.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12053 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:19 pm to
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A "Cultural Phenomenon" comedy would be movies like The Princess Bride, The Jerk, Blazing Saddles, Van Wilder, American Pie, Superbad, and such


people quote borat as much as these movies. If you went up to someone and said VERY NICE HIGH FIVE or VERY NICE HOW MUCH, chances are they know you are quoting Borat. those quotes are still heavily used in society. just look at TD. How many times is the very nice gif used? just go look at the recent coach o threads.

it say it wasnt a phenomenon is to downplay it. Borat was everywhere. the yellow V bikini is still recognized from Borat.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35618 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 5:24 pm to
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quote:
The first one was a cultural phenomenon


Slow down, Clarence


The only horror that I can think of that everyone talked about even though most hadn't seen it was Blair Witch Project. That marketing campaign made most people feel like they had to see it.

Paranormal Activity was not on that type of level in terms of cultural phenomenon.

Edit: wait, I think I meant to post in the horror thread.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/22/20 at 6:34 pm to
"Very Nice" was used a ton, a year later it was being ridiculed as passe.

Nobody has popularly quoted, nor cited, Borat in a work for over a decade.


It was a quirky fad movie. It was quite good, though.

Can you tell me any copycat films, or Borat-like movies spawned by amy phenomenon? I can't think of any, but I am open to being wrong.
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