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Trump's taxes and his role as President

Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:54 pm
Posted by bamaclownbaby
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Member since Jun 2013
384 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:54 pm
I don't blame Trump one bit for paying what he has in taxes. He is just playing the game, playing by the rules that were put in place before him.

But knowing what he knows about the tax code, and his duty to the people, is it not his responsibility to fix those loopholes he knows so intimately for the good of the people?

Or should he just do what is best for him?

*The President can submit bills.
*Even if it isn't ratified he can at least try.
*Loophole was a poor choice of words, he is simply filing his taxes under the current rules of the system.
*Everyone is more willing to deflect and argue semantics than actually consider intent.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:55 pm to
Tax code needs to be completely ripped up and re-written
Posted by Priapus
Member since Oct 2012
1950 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:56 pm to
So, if I am hearing you right, you want Trump to declare himself a Dictator, circumvent Congress, and start "fixing loopholes". Ok.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

But knowing what he knows about the tax code, and his duty to the people, is it not his responsibility to fix those loopholes he knows so intimately for the good of the people?



TIL the President makes tax law.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
1343 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:57 pm to
Trump isn't the one bitching about it. The guy that has been a politician for 40 years, including 8 as VP, is the one that has a problem with it while at the same taking advantage of those same loopholes to save his own money.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140719 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:57 pm to
Um. Is trump now king of Congress?

Do they not do that Saturday morning cartoon on civics any longer? Pity

I’m just a bill..,
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:58 pm to
How much is he paying in taxes?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71594 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:58 pm to
He doesn't even do them

People out there literally think he's fudging TurboTax online
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12580 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 4:59 pm to
If people have a problem with how much he or anyone pays in taxes...your problem isn’t with him or that individual, it’s with the tax code.

Don’t be pissed bc they have CPAs that understand the tax code.

If you understood the tax code to save yourself 5% more in taxes....would you? Of course you would!

Be pissed at the very politicians who wrote the tax code....for their own advantage.

Bernie Sanders pays 12-14% as a millionaaaaa but never mentions himself. Anytime he’s met with the same rhetoric he throws at “1%” he gets pissyvand says he doesn’t make as much.

It’s a disingenuous argument
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Or should he just do what is best for him?


And the millions of Americans that know the difference, and are smart enough to utilize, between tax avoidance and tax evasion. You room-temperature-IQ dolts need to find something else to be concerned about.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:06 pm to
Fair Tax Baw. Government makes more money and we pay less taxes. Win Win.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3344 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:09 pm to
Don’t think Congress would go for this. L O L
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:10 pm to
Never understood what a “loophole” is, a tax strategy is either legal or it’s not, and every part of the tax code is available to every taxpayer if it’s applicable to their situation
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:11 pm to
Flat tax is an idea who’s time has come!

I’ll finally get to rock my Steve Forbes lower back tattoo with pride again!
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18731 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

But knowing what he knows about the tax code, and his duty to the people, is it not his responsibility to fix those loopholes he knows so intimately for the good of the people?



It is not his job to legislate, talk to your representative and senators if you want the tax code changed. The president doesn't write law.

Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:17 pm to
Neither side will win the tax loophole issue. They both play the game and all are rich from it.

The real issue is that every politician should have to disclose all loan/debt they have and who they owe it to.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

But knowing what he knows about the tax code, and his duty to the people, is it not his responsibility to fix those loopholes he knows so intimately for the good of the people?



Tell us how the president is going to do that all by himself
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:20 pm to
According to the NYT post that Trump basically hasn't paid any federal income taxes over the last decade...

They also admit that he has paid $24.3 million in the Alternative Minimum Tax(AMT)

They are using semantics when they say he isn't/hasn't paid income tax

The AMT is the law, written by Congress and signed by the President, that says regardless of losses, regardless of charitable deductions, if you earn over X amount, you have to pay Y amount. IOW a minimum tax on your income that regardless of loopholes that Congress wrote in to the tax code you still have to pay z% of your income.

My wife and I earn a lot of money and make very large charitable contributions, besides have large deductions for property tax and other deductible items.
We have paid the AMT every year for the last 15 years or so.
I have zero problem with Trump paying as little as he can legally. I sure as hell pay as little as we can legally get by with paying.

EDIT: Hell last year I actually had to pay 20% more than I earned in 2019 because of the AMT
Long discussion as to why that is correct and true, but the fact is, it is true.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14859 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 5:21 pm to
What makes you think this Administration hasn't taken steps to do this? Lot of provisions in the TCJA are meant to curb abuses.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41662 posts
Posted on 9/30/20 at 6:55 pm to
The New York Times told me you aren't paying your fair share either. Cough it up cheapskate!
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 7:03 pm
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