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Democrat admits that proposed strategy is just to keep the GOP from a majority, ever

Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by Locke Wiggin
Member since Aug 2020
24 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:28 am
The death of RBG and the likely confirmation of ACB is just a ruse for Democrats. They’ve talked about packing the court, Puerto Rico/DC statehood, and abolishing the filibuster for a long time. They aren’t trying to manipulate the game while they have control of the rules, they are attempting to end the game.

On Pod Save America, Kate Kendell of Take Back the Court outlined the exact reasons for there position on these issues:

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What do you say to the argument that this will only lead to retaliation…?

… Why are they doing this in the first place? And the reason is they know they can’t win popular elections if they are fair. Republicans saw this 20 years ago. You know this data as well as I do. They know they can’t win with free and fair elections and without voter suppression. So beginning 10 years ago and even 20 years ago, they started laying out a plan for cheating and trying to game the system. So if we were to be lucky enough to take the Senate, keep the House, and have Biden and Kamala Harris in the White House, what we could then do is all the corrective actions. It is not just adding Justices to the Court. It is doing what the Brennan Center said: giving voting rights to Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, re-enfranchising people who have lost the right to vote based on felony convictions… We correct all of the manifest injustices put in place to game the system in one direction, we get rid of all of those barriers and all of those hurdles. According to the Brennan Center, if you do all of that, you restore voting and add to the voting rolls 50 million voters. If that happens, Republicans as they are currently manifesting themselves with the highest level of toxicity and ideological purity, will never be able to be in a tit for tat or a tat for tit, whatever it is, position, because they will never again win a majority in the Senate and they will never again regain the White House unless they moderate themselves and their approach to how they want to govern.


These tactics aren’t about “restoring order” or “restoring balance to the Court.” This is an excuse to take actions with a 51% majority to change the rules of the game to eliminate the competition. This is gerrymandering the country to prevent Republicans from ever gaining a majority. They aren’t scared about retribution, because they are taking steps to ensure that the GOP will never be in a position to enact retribution.

Rarely do you hear people say the quiet part out loud, but more recently, the Democrats just don’t seem to care. You used to have to walk a line, say something moderate, and then give a wink and a nod.

Between the BLM movement that wants to blow up the system because of alleged systematic racism and blowing up Constitutional norms because they don’t like the outcomes they’ve received, this country is on the precipice. If I said it once, I’ve said it 1,000 times: THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYONE TROPHIES!

This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:32 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90988 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:31 am to
keep dementia joe out of office for the next 4 years and trump should have replaced a good 6/9 justices so the likelihood they would accept a court challenge to pack the court drops to zero.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101863 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:32 am to
The Republicans can't win without cheating and gaming the system! And also, when we win we're going to add some 50 million favorable voters to our numbers by granting territories the right to vote!
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53215 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:34 am to
Our problem is that there are a lot of politicians in Federal public office who would be fine with this scenario.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25842 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:35 am to
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If that happens, Republicans as they are currently manifesting themselves with the highest level of toxicity and ideological purity,


"Our toxicity and ideological purity is better than theirs!"

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voting rights to Puerto Rico


Haven't the citizens of Puerto Rico voted down becoming a state multiple times?

"They're foolish and uneducated. They don't know what they want. We're going to help them be better by enacting something their voting populace doesn't want. We know better...for the greater good."
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:36 am to
Why stop there.

Just let Mexico and Canada vote too.

And just start the genocide.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62475 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:47 am to
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Republicans as they are currently manifesting themselves with the highest level of toxicity and ideological purity,
Which party is running the cancel culture?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30231 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:47 am to
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Haven't the citizens of Puerto Rico voted down becoming a state multiple times? "They're foolish and uneducated. They don't know what they want. We're going to help them be better by enacting something their voting populace doesn't want. We know better...for the greater good."


I've said for years that the US should setup a deal with PR that they become independent and we send them whatever the current budgeted amount for PR is for the next 30 yrs to help them establish themselves.....if they don't want that then we drop them free and clear.

I mean hell if they make PR a state where does it stop...Guam, USVI, North Mariana, American Samoa (I think that's all the unincorporated territories)....I mean give me a break. We need to end colonialism completely once and for all
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30231 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:49 am to
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Just let Mexico and Canada vote too.


Now you're talking democrat language....it would take a war on our front doorstep to make that happen....as we can see from what is happening today in Louisville, Portland, Seattle, etc that is a Democrats wet dream.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24070 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:56 am to
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On Pod Save America


Isn’t that run by the Obama loon?
Posted by Locke Wiggin
Member since Aug 2020
24 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:59 am to
Yup. I like to listen to stuff from all sides.

But you also occasionally get one of the liberals being open and honest, like in this scenario. It's good to know what you are up against and what they are really thinking.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6400 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:19 am to
The real interesting point is that her comments insinuate that their party is the party of “moderates”. This was their mistake in 2016 and again this year. They truly believe that their platform (Green New Deal, etc) is moderate. That’s how out of touch they are.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:26 am to
The reason the mask is slipping IMHO is that they were supposed to do this after Hillary won and then she fricking lost.

They see everything they want as being so close yet they may have it slip away if they can’t get over the top.


If they lose this presidential election, I don’t see them winning another for quite a while without either a candidate showing up out of the blue or the GOP getting so snake it that a Jimmy Carter sneaks through.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70866 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:28 am to
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unless they moderate themselves and their approach to how they want to govern.


Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:29 am to
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Democrat admits that proposed strategy is just to keep the GOP from a majority, ever
Dems don't want the GOP to ever have a governing majority again, and the GOP doesn't want the Dems to ever have a governing majority again.

This is news?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70866 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:29 am to
Well lets not forget that if not for Trump, the GOP would have run Jeb B against Hillary.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22003 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:30 am to
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they can’t win popular elections


It's amazing how 100% of them think that majority rule and perfectly proportional representation is the only acceptable system for elections. If the founders had insisted on those principles, we would not have a United States. Boston, New York, and Philadelphia would have controlled the rest of the states. The big population centers had to compromise in order to get the less populous states into the union.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:31 am to
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moderate


Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39418 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:32 am to
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because they will never again win a majority in the Senate and they will never again regain the White House


they know that demographics are destiny and they've been playing the long game with the great replacement
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103094 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 10:32 am to
Planned opposition by both sides.

Jeb was intended to get the shite kicked out of him but was controllable should he miraculously win.

Trump was the worst case scenario for both sides because he is upsetting the order of things and may permanently alter the playing field.
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