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re: BREAKING: 2 OFFICERS DOWN BY RIOTERS - 09/23 Riot Thread - Stage: Louisville
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:39 am to Hurricane Mike
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:39 am to Hurricane Mike
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To do what? Act like a hostage negotiator then get shot in the head by the criminal? That will last all of one episode.
Y'all don't seem to have a great grasp on what the frequency of calls to the police actually are.
Not every call is for a violent situation. Or even a potentially violent situation.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:41 am to Hurricane Mike
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To do what? Act like a hostage negotiator then get shot in the head by the criminal? That will last all of one episode.
Having the "social worker" in the car with a cop essentially eliminates that cop from assisting other officers in that precinct.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:47 am to BluegrassBelle
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Y'all don't seem to have a great grasp on what the frequency of calls to the police actually are.
Not every call is for a violent situation. Or even a potentially violent situation.
Fire Fighters are rarely called to actual fires. Defund fire departments!
*I acknowledge that this is a terrible analogy, but it was funny in my head.*
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:53 am to BluegrassBelle
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There are plenty of situations that would never get violent that social workers/counselors could help de-escalate instead of officers.
Majority of calls to police are non-violent calls (they're forever getting called in for homeless people loitering, noise complaints, suicidal/mental health reports, child abuse, etc.).
These are some of the worst domestic calls
You want to send a social worker in a homeless camp full of drunk / high men?
Suicide reports often have a weapon involved, when the person doesn’t comply to put the weapon down & advances is when the cops shoot.
You think a social worker is going to get a grown arse man to talk a man down from holding a gun to his head?
There is a reason why social workers have a cop with them in child abuse cases already, if you think a social worker can go in & remove a kid from abusive parents with no incident then you have no clue how the real world works.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:57 am to LSUJML
To add to your point, a social worker is only going to help if the client wants to help himself. They aren't miracle workers.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:58 am to LSUJML
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You want to send a social worker in a homeless camp full of drunk / high men?
Why wouldn't you if they have the training and experience to handle it?
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You think a social worker is going to get a grown arse man to talk a man down from holding a gun to his head?
Some could, absolutely.
I don't think the social worker argument implies sending social workers in place of cops, except maybe in certain situations. They'd be there in support of armed officers, especially in potentially violent situations.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:59 am to BluegrassBelle
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This is no different then counselors working in psych wards. We physically handle people like that all of the time.
Do the people in psych wards usually have access to weapons? Because mentally ill people on the outside do
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:00 am to The Spleen
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You want to send a social worker in a homeless camp full of drunk / high men?
Why wouldn't you if they have the training and experience to handle it?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:03 am to BluegrassBelle
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People who want to add counselor/social workers to ride along with officers aren't talking about sending them out to deal with violent cases. Can we stop with that shite already?
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They're talking about sending them out to deal with people with mental health issues
You do understand that these often go hand in hand, right?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:04 am to VADawg
did Sao get banned for trolling this thread yet?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:07 am to LSUJML
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You want to send a social worker in a homeless camp full of drunk / high men?
You think social workers don't face that on a regular basis already?
Social workers don't just handle child abuse calls. Their scope is a lot larger than that.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:14 am to BluegrassBelle
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Not every call is for a violent situation. Or even a potentially violent situation.
Highly dependent on the area
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:17 am to BluegrassBelle
Here's another thing to consider. A licensed social worker (therapist) makes about $120 an hour for his/her services. Is the city ready to match that pay? I highly doubt it.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:22 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I guarantee there will be no riots
You ppl are itching for unrest which is demented
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:24 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I guarantee there will be no riots
hey, care to predict how many hurricanes we'll have by november? how about where the stock market will be at the end of the year? number of games LSU will win?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:26 am to RealityTiger
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They aren't miracle workers.
True but that’s why they issue them magic wands instead of guns.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:35 am to roadGator
The real magic is convincing them to leave their private practice of a comfortable office charging clients $120 an hour - to hit the streets at night making roughly $20 an hour.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:39 am to RealityTiger
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The real magic is convincing them to leave their private practice of a comfortable office charging clients $120 an hour - to hit the streets at night making roughly $20 an hour.
They should be hiring those "pie in the sky" college students to fill these roles, how quick would they turn into MAGA-hat wearing conservatives?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:46 am to The Spleen
Wow, you are a special kind of stupid.
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