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Posted on 9/10/20 at 9:59 am to trinidadtiger
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Their navy is bigger than ours,
And made out of thinner sheet metal than Honda uses.
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a fighter comparable to the F-35
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they are approaching us in space superiority
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they are approaching us in ... superiority ....cyber,
Only because they produce every single network electronic that our genius FedGov uses and they steal all of our info.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:02 am to udtiger
People would cry but oh well.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:03 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Anyone who doesn’t realize our military spending is nothing more than a corruption and money laundering scheme for DC insiders at this point just isn’t paying attention.
The same could be said for every single dollar that any form of government spends. The reason government work costs so much is because everyone's relatives and friends have their greedy assed hands out, and they get filled.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:07 am to trinidadtiger
China will eventually steamroll the USA, but, it will not do so using massive conventional military forces.
China will subjugate the USA using the very same methods it has been using for almost 50 years. These methods are working VERY well indeed.
There's no need for China to shift gears towards some kind of 20th Century Model for conquering an enemy nation. China's plan to subjugate the USA is doing VERY well indeed right now, and, if Biden wins, you will see the truth of what I say in the years to come.
Trump 2020, because this is the USA's last chance.
China will subjugate the USA using the very same methods it has been using for almost 50 years. These methods are working VERY well indeed.
There's no need for China to shift gears towards some kind of 20th Century Model for conquering an enemy nation. China's plan to subjugate the USA is doing VERY well indeed right now, and, if Biden wins, you will see the truth of what I say in the years to come.
Trump 2020, because this is the USA's last chance.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:14 am to trinidadtiger
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According to reports
That's the first issue. Where are these reports originating from? Communist countries love to inflate their numbers to make their military seem more powerful than it actually is. Remember this photoshopped pic the Iranians sent out years ago?
Remember how pathetic the Iraqi forces were in Desert Storm? Some of them didn't even have matching shoes, many were so hungry they just gave up.
China's carrier fleet exists of 2 carriers based on 1980's technology, a third in the shipyard and a fourth on the drawing table. Their first one (Liaoning) was an unfinished Ukrainian carrier it purchased back around 2012.
China's other carrier (the Shaidong, I think?) is just an updated version of the Liaoning. The 3rd one is planned to be based off current US carriers from data they've stolen over the years. It will not be until the 4th one (which is still on the drawing board) that they attempt nuclear propulsion.
This is also in the face of the US being vastly superior in the air. The brunt of their air power is the Chengdu J-7. This is the weak sister to the F-15 in pretty much every way (speed, ceiling, payload capacity, range, etc).
Where China is a worry is their expansion into the South China Sea via artificial islands (including expanding upon existing reefs).
This expands their military capacity in this area considerably.
While they have tons of warm bodies, the problem for them is the logistics in getting them from point A to point B and then continuing to support them. They have some capacity to do that in the short-range theater, but not farther out.
As they work on things like their naval base in Djibouti though, that begins to change.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:24 am to Bard
So many people talking in here that don't know shite or have ever stepped foot on one of our carriers. Or tech is way more advanced then anything the chi coms have. Their new F-35 is using 50 year old engine tech.
Think about it for a sec. During the Osama raid no one and I mean no one had even seen a picture of the super advanced blackhawks that were used. The whisper quiet super stealth helicopter. It was a a big secret and still is as no one has seen it since. How much more stuff do you think we have that no one knows about??
Think about it for a sec. During the Osama raid no one and I mean no one had even seen a picture of the super advanced blackhawks that were used. The whisper quiet super stealth helicopter. It was a a big secret and still is as no one has seen it since. How much more stuff do you think we have that no one knows about??
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 10:25 am
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:43 am to trinidadtiger
We have more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:45 am to trinidadtiger
Also, China uses slave labor and other similar atrocities, so trying to compare spending is absurd.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:06 pm to DesScorp
This has always been an issue for the Navy, number of Flag Officers!
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:38 pm to 4Ghost
No one knows how much they spend on defense. Not even them.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:41 pm to trinidadtiger
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chini now have a fighter comparable to the F-35 and is churning them out faster that hotcakes at a waffle house.
Does a stolen cheaper knock off of an American product being mass produced in China really surprise you?
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