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Does our military suck that bad???

Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:43 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13320 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:43 am
According to reports, the chini now have a fighter comparable to the F-35 and is churning them out faster that hotcakes at a waffle house. Their navy is bigger than ours, their army has been larger for years, they are approaching us in space superiority and cyber, and well we have seen their capability in bio weapons.

We spend 750 billion a year and they spent 156 billion last year. In the past decade we have outspent them over 50 to one yet they are on par or passing us on every front. Do we suck this bad or.....

Perhaps the MIC is spreading fodder so everyone can continue to wallow in the gravy generated by this fear.

Maybe thats the real fear of unraveling the deep state, we might find the chini arent stealing the tech, we are leaving the back door open, giving a wink and turning our heads. After all, if there is no competition there is no need for the F-2028 or B-943 now is there.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:47 am to
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Their navy is bigger than ours


Huh?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:48 am to
Don't believe the hype......the US military is superior to China hands down.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6831 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:49 am to
I think this sums it up pretty well

https://youtu.be/OyBNmecVtdU
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 4:59 am
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:52 am to
No we are divided as a nation. Thats why we will lose. Its a sad counter to freedom, that our minds are the constant battlefield.

We aren't geared for it as a society any longer. They are, right now.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13320 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:56 am to
Exactly Chrome. I find it ironic that all these years later, Trump even mentioned the MIC by name recently, when he was referencing complaints about pulling troops out of the middle east.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:00 am to
And immediately after he did that, we get massive wildfires. Many are claiming DEWs used. Its all about money, always, usually through death or extortion.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 5:02 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13320 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:04 am to
Do they have a larger navy you say, well here is a snippet from the Pentagon itself.....

quote:

A key component has been China’s continuing maritime build-up from its surface forces to ballistic missile submarines. He said its fleet numbers 350 warships compared to the United States’ 293.


We done, Im telling you we are done.... unless of course you want to develop this new Superman class of aircraft carriers. Now I can put you in this baby for lets say only 25 or 30 trillion, lets take you and your buddies in congress on a little junket to discuss. No need to take the little lady I got this private jet, slightly used, I call it the little lolita.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6831 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:05 am to
I admit it has been a while since I studied the Kennedy assassin, but wasn’t the MIC postulated as the behind the scenes culprit? Something in the depths of my sleep deprived brain is tickling about that.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:14 am to
First of all, communist countries lie about the strength of their military. They like to use propaganda to overstate their strength. Whereas, the US military industrial likes to use the same propaganda to get more funds from our government out of fear. US jets are decades ahead of Chinese jets in tech and even if the CCP has long range fighter jet like the f35, I can guarantee you is not as effective. As for their Navy, they may indeed have more ships now, but most are outdated and inferior to US ships, they simply don't have the budget to keep up. Furthermore their economy is shrinking and they refuse to release accurate data about it, but we know thousands of companies have moved out of China with many more in the process of leaving. The world is pissed at the CCP and simply not investing like they were and they will be soon be forced to scale it back because of their lack of income.Their space program has had setback after setback. Not to mention recent natural disasters costing them insane amounts of money and threatening to break their entire economy. Bottom line is their economy is collapsing and they are going broke fast. If those dams break, they will lose entire cities, huge cities and much of their manufacturing.
I think Chrome is correct. And the US military industrial is attempting to use CCP lies as leverage to scare Americans into supporting even more military spending. If you research strongest militaries in the world from international sources, you will find the US number one on every single site you search. The truth is that since both countries have nuclear weapons, there will be no all out military war because of mutually assured destruction. So even if the reports are true, and I highly doubt it, then it jst means that the CCP is wasting money on weapons they will never use, just like us.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 5:23 am
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:16 am to
More boats, but I doubt they have more of an offensive capability.

Least, not yet.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34012 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:25 am to
Size isn't everything. The Russians had forces that dwarfed ours, but the quality of their equipment, and the training of their people didn't compare at all to the West.

The Chinese have little if any substantive allied support, whereas the US has allies across the globe, all using , for the most part, the same equipment, and following the same training protocols.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:26 am to
if you want to include China's crudely converted commercial freighters and tankers as warships, they may get up to that number
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27395 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:42 am to
We have 10 active carrier groups. The ChiComs have like 1. We can actually put 12 carriers to sea if we have to. No one else comes close.

Our sub fleet is much more deadly than you could even imagine.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58559 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:51 am to
A significant portion of our military consists of social programs.
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:51 am to
quote:

US jets are decades ahead of Chinese...



decades?
we might be 100 years ahead right now.


did you wonder why President Trump set up space force?
..or what were those unknown flying objects released on military (navy) videos?
go look up the patents on "(B64G1/409)".. you will see "US NAvy" more than once..
patent search
fwiw, those video drops..were a little hint of whats to come.. to our commie friends in china.

just like the stealth technology went from quasi secret to known real quick.. the next generation of weaponS will be (slowly) introduced to public (probably after 1st wartime use)

quote:

‘It is possible to envision a hybrid aerospace/undersea craft (HAUC), which due to the physical mechanisms enabled with the inertial mass reduction device, can function as a submersible craft capable of extreme underwater speeds… and enhanced stealth capabilities,’ the patent continues. ‘This hybrid craft would move with great ease through the air/space/water mediums, by being enclosed in a vacuum plasma bubble/sheath.’ /

This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 5:58 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34678 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:53 am to
The problem with the military we don't try to win wars anymore. We spend way more than the rest of the world combined but what have we actually accomplished with all that money



But lol at you thinking China has the more powerful military
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 5:54 am
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
3841 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:54 am to
Bigger doesn’t mean shite in 2020
Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
1924 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:54 am to
quote:

First of all, communist countries lie about the strength of their military.

This.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24003 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 6:37 am to
Them and the mafia. But hell the MIC was already a full grown behemoth by the time he gave that speech. The Bushes, standard oil, and american steel all helped the Nazis take over Europe.
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