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It’s all about money it’s not player heath

Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Kategory 5
Member since Jul 2019
298 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:04 pm
Why make them play 24 games in 8 months. Why if it’s about long lasting heath then why play with CTE concerns. I know this is rambling I’m just pissed off that all these kids college experience and Careers are being crushed. The world is a sad place right now.
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1759 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:05 pm to
Amen!
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7988 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:06 pm to
There won’t be college football in the Spring. If you make teams play two seasons in a calendar year, then you don’t give a shite about player safety.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7636 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:09 pm to
Postponement is a stunt they are using hoping to keep their teams from playing with another confrence in fall by promising them a season but just delayed.

In spring nothing will change and they will cancel citing player safety because there won't be enough rest between seasons
Posted by showtiger
Kingwood,Tx
Member since Nov 2008
497 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:09 pm to
They are not playing 24 games, that’s just to keep the news cycle spinning. It’s working to. ????
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33584 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:15 pm to
The heart thing seems relevant.
quote:


A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.

Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.

The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.


If I'm an admin and I see a "rare" condition already present in 5 athletes, I have to at least consider what my career looks like if we proceed and someone dies.

LINK
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26665 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:17 pm to
If it was about money, they'd be playing. Schools make MILLIONS from TV revenue. No football = no TV.

This is just a bunch of candy-arse over-reacting to something that is of little concern to make athletes in the prime of life.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7612 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:55 pm to
Myocarditis is very often found in young athletes.

Plenty of research on it pre-covid.

There is no proof that the myocarditis was caused by covid.

Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14861 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:57 pm to
Myocarditis is both treatable and temporary
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5539 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:00 pm to
Lol you think the B10 and PAC12 really plan on playing in the spring?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18758 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:09 pm to
W/o a some vaccinations... this shite is here for the LONG HAUL! People need to solve the problem... not figure out a way to live with it.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11303 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:24 pm to
Well on the plus side LSU is still national champion
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2008
3773 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:24 pm to
It can be about two things ya know. Player health is tied to liability thus money anyway.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
How the hell did you spell health wrong twice
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 5:16 pm to
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It can be about two things ya know. Player health is tied to liability thus money anyway.


Bingo, I agree, college football while the same sport as NFL and yes MLB is playing, those are "jobs" and under US. Labor law, those Players unions through collective bargaining negotiated their playing conditions and wages to play under COVID and Management (Owners signed off). No different than when the economy was on lock down, certain businesses if they wanted to open could stay open, trucking companies and truckers to move supplies, grocery stores, restaraunts (takeout) Drug stores, hospitals, gas stations, car repair shops, Vets were allowed to stay open. So those business owners could choose to work under what conditions they wanted.

College football players are still under NCAA student athletes and amateurs. They get a scholarship and grant and aide to go to school to obtain a degree, sports is the means that gave them the opportunity. So college players can't negotiate terms of playing as they are not employees of the University. Period. The moment that happens, a HS player then they can't receive a scholarship (Pell or Grant and aide) to obtain a degree.

I think the Big10 and Pac 12 University Presidents, in consultation with legal and medical staff and Governors ran simulations. What is the finanical impact of not playing (lost TV, ticket, concession, merchandise revenue) vs. playing and having some players get health issues 10 years down the line and then what is the amount of potential lawsuit in Billions with a B dollars and probability of losing said lawsuit. I think those conferences were more risk averse and said no go based on the economics.

So 2 options, the Big10 and Pac12 said play, and the players under NCAA are amateurs can't negotiate working terms, something happens and lawsuits follow. You allow them to do what the Pac12 players a few weeks ago were calling for, form a players union, then they are employees and defacto no longer student athletes. So under the notion that the players are not employees, they are scholarship student-athletes, Big10 and Pac12 saw the financial risk as to great and cancelled.

What is the risk aversion of the states SEC/ACC/Big12 footprint, we will see.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4082 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

I know this is rambling I’m just pissed off that all these kids college experience and Careers are being crushed.


A lot of everyday peoples lives have been crushed. No graduations, weddings, proper funerals, etc. Its just a horrible situation all around.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8412 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:13 am to
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The world is a sad place right now.


The commies want it that way. Anyway, I agree it's all about money right now. In this litigation culture today God forbid a football player should die of Covid-19.

I say let the boys play. But I can understand the SEC's concerns. You know some blood sucking lawyer is lurking in the shadows just waiting to sue the SEC and the University if one of those boys die of Covid-19.

This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 8:20 am
Posted by pizzathehut
west monroe
Member since Jul 2016
790 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:15 am to
EVERY thing is bout the cash....
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18856 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:16 am to
It's always about the money....no spring football by the way.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:31 am to
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If I'm an admin and I see a "rare" condition already present in 5 athletes, I have to at least consider what my career looks like if we proceed and someone dies.


I think it's more of a long term liability issue for the colleges and athletic departments -- especially now that they know and it's out in the public literature.

If they go forward and hundreds of kids get myocarditis, the lawsuits that will come will make the NFL's CTE lawsuits look like nuisance suits. And, they'll go on for YEARS. The money that will be paid out will dwarf any revenue that will be lost if the season is cancelled for a year (or even two).
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 8:33 am
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