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re: Don’t pay teachers to not teach!

Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:04 pm to
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don't care for the virtual stuff - I teach Chemistry and Physics.


Agreed, I'm high school science myself (Anatomy, biology, environmental, Zoology, typically depending on the year) and teaching online completely sucks. The best part of the job for me is the interaction with the students, losing that makes the rest of the stupid crap we deal with not particularly worthwhile. And much of my teaching style is enhanced by building rapport and joking with students, getting them on board to work and engage due to the strength of that rapport, losing that part sucks doubly so.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30316 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:05 pm to
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I'm going to be pissed if my school decides not to open. I don't care for the virtual stuff - I teach Chemistry and Physics.
Just curious, how did you teach Chem/Physics when schools closed in March?
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:08 pm to
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YOU are a champ and I commend you. That is an unrealistic ratio for a single teacher.



30+ students is the normal ratio for a single teacher these days. I typically average around 32-33 students per class. I usually have 2 classes with 35-36, two around 32, and one outlier that has 28ish. That's been the case every year of the 7 I've taught.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:09 pm to
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You realize teachers still teach whether it's online or in person


meh

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the vast majority of teachers can't wait to get back into the classroom.


no way
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29484 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:11 pm to
Honest question: if this was the caveat to keeping schools closed how many teachers would be up in arms demanding to go back?

“Think of the children.”
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10336 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:13 pm to
It’s always stupid people who know nothing about teaching or education that make these kinds of comments. Going to school, learning, teachers, education are all great things that not enough people appreciate or respect.
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
1944 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:14 pm to
30 per class is the norm. If anyone in your hallway is out and no sub shows (very common), you get an extra 10-15 packed in the back to monitor as well while you teach your 30.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:17 pm to
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It’s always stupid people who know nothing about teaching or education that make these kinds of comments. Going to school, learning, teachers, education are all great things that not enough people appreciate or respect.


awe look its a young teacher who thinks her job is admirable...the teaching profession has sucked since the late 80s
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
1944 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:17 pm to
Also, to those saying “we only need one third of the teachers”... it is required in my district that I monitor and give daily feedback to each student each day. We cannot post random videos and “let a computer grade it”. We are teaching live all day. Also, adjust lesson plans based on those findings, and all of this must be done when not teaching. Computers cannot create accommodation plans for special needs students either.
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 3:29 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25572 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:32 pm to
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PE/Art & Music teachers won't be teaching online.


Former coach and current music teacher. Not online am I already teaching online, but I gave free music lessons to all of my students throughout the summer. This was while my wife and I were planning our wedding. I spent hours at the school helping coordinate instrument distribution days.

While many teachers do, in fact, enjoy a summer, coaches and band staff have been back at work for a couple of weeks. Most spent time this summer developing reopening plans. I drafted up 3 reopening plans, all of which had to be scrapped because of rising numbers.

I hate to be that guy, but don’t bash a profession if you don’t know the ins-and-outs of it. I find it very difficult to shite on someone else’s job during these times, because I don’t know what all they are doing.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25572 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:33 pm to
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teaching profession has sucked since the late 80s


Elaborate please
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27448 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:39 pm to
A computer program grade the assignment? Thats funny

You should see some of these tests
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 3:57 pm to
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Elaborate please


are you a teacher? how old?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25572 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 4:22 pm to
Yes. 33 years of age
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 4:29 pm to
Kids 15 and under have a 3x more rate to die from the flu then covid. OPEN THE GOD DAMN SCHOOLS you liberals
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41898 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 4:34 pm to
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And also, the vast majority of teachers can't wait to get back into the classroom.


They better let their unions know ASAP because the opposite is being advocated on their behalf.


The teachers who are worth a shite aren't part of the same unions you hear about in the news. My wife and the other teachers who actually love doing their job are part of a different teacher's union that focuses on legal resources for teachers who are forced into shitty situations by the admins. The teachers unions you hear about are the ones that the shitty teachers join.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25572 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 5:39 pm to
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My wife and the other teachers who actually love doing their job are part of a different teacher's union that focuses on legal resources for teachers who are forced into shitty situations by the admins


Bingo. I don’t think being in a union with my bosses would be a smart thing.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 5:46 pm to
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My wife is a teacher in the public schools as well.



Oh well then we should get unbiased, objective, “real talk” from you.


Never met a guilty defendant in the courtroom either.
Posted by new92
Middleburg, FL
Member since Feb 2009
595 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 5:55 pm to
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Please tell me what custodians and lunch ladies will be doing when there are no students? Why pay for food supplies when there's no one to eat it? ?




My school still provided breakfast and lunch everyday during the shutdown. The parents had to go pick it up but it was available
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:00 pm to
I won’t speak to custodians, because I think a lot of them don’t do shite, but the lunch staff has been working full time hours throughout.

EBR is a district that gives free lunch, because unfortunately, there are several students who have it as there one consistent meal.

We’ve had designated times for parents and guardians to pick up meals.


As to the aide question, some teachers get paraprofessionals to assist them depending on the class (though I’ve only met a few paras who try at there jobs). Those are paid positions. As to college students, I guess I could pay one under the table to help me, but I’d rather just half-arse it if they gave me 100 kids to teach online than come out of pocket (not that they would give me 100 kids).

If you meant student teachers, they get their assignments, and that varies from school to school. My school gets maybe 1 or 2 a year.

Others I know get 4-5, but when you have 40 or so teaching positions, it doesn’t go a long way.

But that’s not an issue, because people with good time management can handle the workload at current ratios. Those who can’t should find a different job.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 3:56 am
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