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Nola restaurant and bar renaissance
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:04 am
Obviously a ton will close doors for good. Do you think we will see a new influx of investors and chefs come fill the void?
I think it could happen and won’t necessarily be terrible down the road. Some of these were owned by absentee owners through inheritance.
I think it could happen and won’t necessarily be terrible down the road. Some of these were owned by absentee owners through inheritance.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:09 am to The Levee
Of course it will. Many chefs and owners and staff will move to other jobs and positions for a time. Some will never come back to the restaurant industry, but as soon as there is demand again many will return and new talent will enter.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:10 am to The Levee
Everyone is broke it will take longer and rent will have to drop in some spaces
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:12 am to The Levee
It'll take time, more time than after Katrina.
The reason: The whole world is going through this. Places all over the country are going to go under, it won't be concentrated in one spot where a bunch of people can move in and fill the void.
We will need to prove that tourism is making a come back, and it will happen over time.
I think we are looking at long term reduction in the amount of restaurants and especially bars, but hopefully the better ones will succeed and survive.
The reason: The whole world is going through this. Places all over the country are going to go under, it won't be concentrated in one spot where a bunch of people can move in and fill the void.
We will need to prove that tourism is making a come back, and it will happen over time.
I think we are looking at long term reduction in the amount of restaurants and especially bars, but hopefully the better ones will succeed and survive.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:22 am to The Levee
A lot will depend on how long Latoya keeps us closed to tourists. She can't block them from coming, so she stopped them by closing everything that tourists come for.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:24 am to The Levee
By best estimates, the population of the greater New Orleans area is around 1 million. By estimates of tourism industry leaders, the New Orleans region sees about 8-9 million people per year as visitors. We have something like 1300-1500 restaurants not including fast service chains. Maybe more, maybe less. All #s relative ballpark.
The question is more about when the tourist # gets back to that level. Many, if not almost all, restaurants rely on a steady flow of visitor, convention, special event business to make the numbers work. Think of a place like Antoine's. I bet a significant % of their revenue is driven by tourist spend, weddings, large events (mardi gras parties, deb balls, etc...) - wager 75-80%.
How long can places last until that spigot is turned back is the question no one knows. Then factor in each restaurant's unique ownership structure, whether they own real estate or not, employee and staffing concerns, public perception of dining out.
Gonna be anyone's guess as to what happens.
The question is more about when the tourist # gets back to that level. Many, if not almost all, restaurants rely on a steady flow of visitor, convention, special event business to make the numbers work. Think of a place like Antoine's. I bet a significant % of their revenue is driven by tourist spend, weddings, large events (mardi gras parties, deb balls, etc...) - wager 75-80%.
How long can places last until that spigot is turned back is the question no one knows. Then factor in each restaurant's unique ownership structure, whether they own real estate or not, employee and staffing concerns, public perception of dining out.
Gonna be anyone's guess as to what happens.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:32 am to BlackenedOut
I might wait a few months then start some venture capitalist campaigns to find great cooks and do research on efficient/ pandemic resistant restaurants and bars.
I see it as an opportunity
I’ve got a couple of ideas on my back pocket
I see it as an opportunity
I’ve got a couple of ideas on my back pocket
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 11:34 am
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:38 am to The Levee
Better plan on waiting more than a few months
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:40 am to The Levee
NPR
Heard this morning on the commute to the office. Transcript available later today. Damn shame.
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NPR's Noel King talks to Ian McNulty, who covers New Orleans food culture, about K-Paul's Louisiana Kitchen, an iconic restaurant in the city's French Quarter, announcing it will close permanently.
Heard this morning on the commute to the office. Transcript available later today. Damn shame.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:40 am to BlackenedOut
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Antoine's.
I can't see how they are going to make it. I'm hoping that I am wrong.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:43 am to BlackenedOut
I hadn’t thought much recently about the wedding industry and how much it means to Nola. A friend just had to cancel his wedding for next month that had already been delayed.
I don’t see many people wanting to have a wedding in Nola until next year. This is a huge hit to restaurants, reception facilities, catering companies, hotels, bars.
I don’t see many people wanting to have a wedding in Nola until next year. This is a huge hit to restaurants, reception facilities, catering companies, hotels, bars.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:54 am to BlackenedOut
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The question is more about when the tourist # gets back to that level.
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Then factor in each restaurant's unique ownership structure, whether they own real estate or not, employee and staffing concerns, public perception of dining out.
This is pretty much the bottom line.
Think we will see some restaurant co-ops in the future.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:54 am to fightin tigers
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A lot will depend on how long Latoya keeps us closed to tourists. She can't block them from coming, so she stopped them by closing everything that tourists come for.
just saw an article that Philadelphia is cancelling all large gatherings until the end of February 2021. So no Thanksgiving Parade, Mummers Parade, etc.
It scares me that there is now precedent from a douchey "Progressive" Mayor to shut down things into next year. Toya gonna have something to chew on.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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and especially bars,
I could see the reduction in restaurants, but you think the same with bars? NOLA is a party city and drinking/celebrating is part of the city’s culture. If the neighborhood watering holes start to close for good that would be an awful situation.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:34 pm to Paul Allen
I assume most of the neighborhood bars will make it if Latoya will let them open back up in the next month or so.
Many places in the quarter and the WHD are screwed.
Many places in the quarter and the WHD are screwed.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:30 pm to notiger1997
I think the answer is based on how many tourist feel comfortable coming back to NOLA. It really could be a much longer time than expected.
As soon as they raise the lock down, there will have to be a marketing blitz to convince those people that it's safe to return. The politicians need to quit talking down the city and get back to hosting events.
And, how many current restaurant groups are bleeding out? Will they have enough capital to restart, or will it take outsiders or new comers to revive the industry? There are always plenty of doctors and lawyers wives that want to open a restaurant...but, will there be enough experienced operators still in the game to keep them going?
As soon as they raise the lock down, there will have to be a marketing blitz to convince those people that it's safe to return. The politicians need to quit talking down the city and get back to hosting events.
And, how many current restaurant groups are bleeding out? Will they have enough capital to restart, or will it take outsiders or new comers to revive the industry? There are always plenty of doctors and lawyers wives that want to open a restaurant...but, will there be enough experienced operators still in the game to keep them going?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:06 pm to Dixie
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There are always plenty of doctors and lawyers wives that want to open a restaurant...but, will there be enough experienced operators still in the game to keep them going?
This is truly what sets cities like New Orleans apart in restaurants. Not just the talent in the kitchen, but top notch operators as well. Restaurants change can lose chefs midshift and customers hardly notice.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:17 pm to Professor Boudin
Any new closures in the area? Looking to invest
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:21 pm to The Levee
The best brewery in the city (arguably in the state), All Relations, closed its doors for good last weekend.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 12:35 pm to The Levee
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I’ve got a couple of ideas on my back pocket
Ditto
Myself and a NJ transplant buddy of mine want to bring good pizza by the slice uptown.
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