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re: The Wonder Years being rebooted with a Black family by ABC

Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 9:25 pm to
No Winnie Cooper No Care
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80900 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:48 pm to
I guess the line "what would you do if I sang out of tune" is no longer applicable?
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142844 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 11:00 pm to
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I guess the line "what would you do if I sang out of tune" is no longer applicable?
"What would you do if I danced down the steps?"

"I think your natural rhythm is fine"


Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28841 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:22 am to
Oh wow, more race-bait porn. More. More. More!
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:42 am to
They growing up in 2020?
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9875 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:12 am to
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Is television somehow incomplete w/o a black reboot of everything?

You know I'm on your side on this issue, right?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41285 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:23 am to
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Now, it will probably drip with BLM-driven agendas.


Undoubtedly.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36469 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Well, that made the black inclusion all the more awkward, then. In one episode, the middle school baseball coach was black - and turned out to be a war buddy of Jack. In another, Kevin had a young, black female English teacher who was so iconoclastic that she fully challenged the school administration by doing things that were still ruffling feathers in 1992 with just white people, much less 1972.


Let’s be real. You’re not going to handle race in one or two episodes. If TWY had a race episode or two, it would be accused of having a token race character or marginalizing to one episode or whatever. Pretend the show wanted to explore the nuances of race in that suburban era. It would essentially require that to be some inseparable plot thread or theme of the show. That’s not what the show was about. Kevin’s perspective however insulated was based off of what a middle class white kid in the suburbs experienced in that time period.

Same thing with Mad Men. People complained race wasn’t more of an issue . The show did introduce race to a degree but it was ancillary at best - because that’s not what the show was about. It wasn’t written or conceived as a discourse on race. Someone like Don Draper would have rarely interacted with blacks socially, which is what the show accurately reflected. Demanding “more race” runs the risk that the show just deviates from its premise and foundation altogether.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1132 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:40 pm to
Where’s the frick all that meme. Too much. Come on.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:32 pm to
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Let’s be real. You’re not going to handle race in one or two episodes. If TWY had a race episode or two, it would be accused of having a token race character or marginalizing to one episode or whatever. Pretend the show wanted to explore the nuances of race in that suburban era. It would essentially require that to be some inseparable plot thread or theme of the show. That’s not what the show was about. Kevin’s perspective however insulated was based off of what a middle class white kid in the suburbs experienced in that time period.
These are fair observations.

I was thinking back to one episode - where Kevin is entering his first day of HS. The narrator says something about "there were new consciousnesses" to consider - and it shows 2 super huge afro guys walking towards him. They flash Kevin the black power fists and Kevin gives them a weak one back.

And they actually did have an episode where Kevin's teacher wrote a play for them to perform about racial injustice. Kevin played RFK. When I watched it recently, I actually noticed how it was kind of whitesplainy. You would have thought MLK (assassinated within the past year) would have been the main character. Instead, he was shuffled offstage and Kevin as RFK was the main focus. Just kind of weird.

Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
2938 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:33 pm to
Hard Pass
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9972 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:01 pm to
They better make Winnie another black boy to diversify.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14248 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:06 am to
Considering that was a tough time to be black in America, I expect the show will be more drama than comedy. I’m not a fan of rebooting a show with just a race/gender switch, but at least this one is changing the time period.

It’s not as bad as some of the more obvious racial pandering that I’ve seen on television recently....making Jake from State Farm black and having just about every other couple depicted in commercials be interracial.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:34 am to
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I expect the show will be more drama than comedy.



TWY was always at least as much drama as it was comedy

It’s coming of age at its finest.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8824 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 12:47 pm to
Does this qualify for Cultural Appropriation?
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 2:16 pm to
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a black middle-class family in Montgomery, Alabama

I don't think The Wonder Years would have worked without a strong father figure.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22426 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 2:52 pm to
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It’s not as bad as some of the more obvious racial pandering that I’ve seen on television recently....making Jake from State Farm black and having just about every other couple depicted in commercials be interracial.


Putting interracial couples in commercials isn't pandering, it's simply marketing.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25973 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 3:12 pm to
When we gonna get a show about a white family living in the magnolia projects back in the 90's. That's something i'd like to see.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14248 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 3:45 pm to
Are there enough interracial couples in America to warrant spending big money to market to them? If so, then why not also market to couples where one of the partners is Latino or Asian?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
39027 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 3:51 pm to
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making Jake from State Farm black


Why are people hung up on this? It's not like Jake was some interesting recurring character like the Allstate guy. He was in a single commercial 10 years ago and he was the least funny part about it.
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